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  • One more thing, (I have dug out my finance contract which is with Barclays Partner Finance) technically I still have a contract with the finance company, one which I have defaulted on in a massive way. How do I know that Barclay's won't "find" the original contract and before I know it I am making two payments?

    What am I looking for if I seek legal advice? The only time I have used a lawyer is when buying my house and he cost a lot more then the TV.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    If the finance company have not in fact paid Tesco for the TV (which seems to be what tesco is saying) then you have not defaulted on the loan/hp agreement because the finance company has not fulfilled their part of the contract. However, it is a valid point. You do need to make sure that no money has been paid to tesco by the finance company. As a side issue, I am surprised tesco retail use barclays for hp agreements - could you just clarify that this was not a private loan that you took out with barclays? I understood that this was a hp/loan agreement that you took out with tesco to purchase the TV?
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • Bob_Bobington
    Bob_Bobington Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 4 June 2013 at 9:34PM
    Yes it was a HP/loan taken out in a Tesco store, it was not a private loan.

    BPF refused to tell me the status of the agreement when I contacted them. Surely only BPF can confirm the contract with them is invalid. If I pay Tesco and BPF decide I do owe them money would letters from Tesco saying the agreement is invalid be good enough evidence to stop them chasing me?
  • Rain_Shadow
    Rain_Shadow Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    What's your rationale behind this question? The OP has already offered to return the TV, so where does stealing come into it?

    I don't think you really need that explaining to you.
    You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friend's nose.
  • Duke203
    Duke203 Posts: 113 Forumite
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    edited 4 June 2013 at 10:43PM
    Would I like to get away with not paying for the TV, Hell Yeah! who wouldn't?
    As for the accusations that I am trying to steal the TV, to be frank I am deeply insulted.

    Um, I would hate to be one to question your morals or insult you, but.......:rotfl:
    "Chuck Norris can remain solvent for longer than the markets can remain irrational"
  • Treadmill
    Treadmill Posts: 1,102 Forumite
    I would be inclined not to sign, that should have been done at the time. Tesco will never learn if the punters make it to easy for them. Keep hold of the telly, don't pay and they might learn next time. Tough love.
  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    Treadmill wrote: »
    I would be inclined not to sign, that should have been done at the time. Tesco will never learn if the punters make it to easy for them. Keep hold of the telly, don't pay and they might learn next time. Tough love.
    A fabulous way to trash your credit file.

    I'd have a crack at suggesting they write off the debt. Firmly worded letter. Your error, spend £x,xxx in your supermarket each year, no deliberate act on my part etc.

    If that doesn't work, pay what you owe.
  • Tough love, until it goes to court and the OP is found against and they have to pay!

    It's a bit of a tricky web here OP. I think there were two agreements here involving yourself, your agreement with Tesco to pay in exchange for a TV and you and finance company, for them to pay Tesco for the TV.

    If Tesco have not been paid then you need to chase the finance company to pay them and can bill you.

    If you want to do the honorable thing then sign the new agreement/pay-up, if you want to try and get a free TV then keep stum and make them do the running. Legally, you still owe for a TV.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 35,242 Forumite
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    Treadmill wrote: »
    Keep hold of the telly, don't pay and they might learn next time. Tough love.

    I'd always understood tough love being about having to take a hard line with someone you care about, in the hope of a better outcome, despite the fact it is difficult and unpleasant for both you and them.

    Not about getting a free TV.
  • bigadaj
    bigadaj Posts: 11,531 Forumite
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    I'd always understood tough love being about having to take a hard line with someone you care about, in the hope of a better outcome, despite the fact it is difficult and unpleasant for both you and them.

    Not about getting a free TV.

    Tough love varies dependent on your perspective, ask max Mosley.
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