Flexible working hours denied - no reason i can see!

Takeaway_Addict

ohreally wrote: »

Reasons for refusal are prescribed...

Applications for flexible working arrangements can be refused only for the following reasons:
• the burden of additional costs
• detrimental effect on ability to meet customer demand
• inability to reorganise work among existing staff
• inability to recruit additional staff
• detrimental impact on quality
• detrimental impact on performance
• insufficiency of work during the periods the employee proposes to work
• planned structural changes."

And any manager worth their salt can make the reason ift one of those.

ohreally

cord123 wrote: »

I dont have 32 hours work.... my day consists of sitting on the internet all day.... i have told him in my appraisal and other occasions that i dont have enough work - i could do my job in 15 hours easily let alone 24! xx

Way to talk your-self out a job.

andrewjf

ohreally wrote: »

Way to talk your-self out a job.

I missed that one. OP are you happy with that job? Doing nothing all day can be soul destroying.
Sounds like your boss isn't listening to you at all. I'm starting to think your plan of looking for alternative jobs is the way to go.

Openwind_Curse

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Its not upto the employer to sort someones childcare arrangements out. The OP needs to come up with the suitable alternatives.

Yes, that is what I said. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I meant that he should ask his employer what his options are in the workplace to accommodate this changed lifestyle. The manager was out of place suggesting for the employee's friends to take care of the son, as that isn't the workplace's affair.

I also recommended that the OP make his own plans in case the manager doesn't change his decision, so I think we're agreeing with each other here!

cord123

I have a childminder that can collect him but the amount they charge for that hour and half is actually more than I will take home after tax!
I only said I didnt have enough work in case he had more he can give me... not to talk myself out of a job. I hate sitting here with nothing to do, it is boring as sin and a waste of mine and my employers time.
I asked for a trial for this so if and when it gets more busy then it could be reviewed. Bearing in mind a colleague changed her hours for one day being a 6 hour day (who is more senior and supposedly busier than me)I cant understand why I have been denied.
I cant work Fridays because my son is registered disabled and has frequent hospital appointments which 90% of the time fall on a friday so it isnt possible to work this day....

ohreally

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

And any manager worth their salt can make the reason ift one of those.

At the appeal stage is where one picks apart managements attempt to justify refusal. If the employees case is robust the management decision is there for overturning however i accept not everyone is equiped to take on their employer over issues such as this.

ArtoDeeto

ohreally wrote: »

Way to talk your-self out a job.

Have to say I agree with that.

LittleVoice

cord123 wrote: »

Hi,

I spoke to my boss today about channging my hours from Sept when my son starts school. I currently work 8.30 - 4.30 4 days (mon to thurs) I have asked that i do 8.30 - 2.30 4 days, meaning i drop 8 hours a week. My manager was fine with this as we are so quiet and dont have enough work.

He said no, even saying that friends are there to help out and should collect my son from school. He also said that when the new company starts we maybe busier meanign that he will hirer a new accounts person to do that.... he also said he doesnt want to set a prescident. There is only one other person with a child in the office, she used to work 4 full days but changed one day to the hours I want to do (and she does this day from home as well!)

I am so upset - there is absolutely no reason that i can see that he should have refused this, my work is solely mine and will my work times do not impact on anyone, it will be no hassle to do the work within these hours at all. I told him that I will actually be worse off having to work these hours as the childcare will work out more than I will take home for those two hours (after tax etc) thats when he suggested friends do it!
This is a small company and we have no HR department so I dont know where i should go from here....
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I don't understand.
Is your "boss" your "manager"?
If he is, why would he be "fine with this" request and yet say "no"?
If your boss is your manager's manager, then did your manager support your request?

93123

LittleVoice wrote: »

I don't understand.
Is your "boss" your "manager"?
If he is, why would he be "fine with this" request and yet say "no"?
If your boss is your manager's manager, then did your manager support your request?

I took it to mean that the boss said no and the manager said yes.

I assume the boss is the main boss of the company and the manager is the manager of the department or something.

Missme

Was this all verbal OP or did you make the written request.

It it was all verbal, read the ACAS booklet (pass it on to the boss who would benefit from reading it IMO) and formalise the matter if you wish to pursue it.