Csa calculations when moving abroad

Monkey1234

I have recently been offered a job opportunity in Saudi Arabia, with approximately £100k salary. I have been paying for my little boy on time every month for his whole life since his mother and I parted ways. I have read up and I know that Saudi Arabia is not covered as a country the csa can work with. Neither am I working for a uk based firm or in the forces etc.

I want to Carry on paying for my son but how would I do this? I mean if they were to take 20% of my new wage as they currently do that would be £20,000 a year, that matches my current salary and seems a rediculous amount to fork out there is no way she would spend all that on my son i can see the pound signs in her eyes now. I am the one taking the risks here to work in an unstable country out of my comfort zone to get back on my feet after leaving her everything. I am more than happy to carry on with my current payments and even up them slightly I will always provide for my son I mean the main reason I am doing this is so i can buy a property to provide a stable home when he is with me when i return in 5 years, not a father moving from flat to flat working every hour under the sun and still living on the bread line.

Also please don't get me wrong it is going to kill me being apart from my son but with them also offering me 4 months a year with free flights to come back to England it's something I haveto do to rebuild my life and create myself a financial future.

My question is how will they calculate my payments when I am there? I no longer have any property or savings in the uk either. If I refuse to tell them my new salary how will they calculate the amount? I wanto pay, but am also worried about being hit with a miss calculation bill when I return in say 5 years.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks

M

shoe*diva79

They cant calculate your payments. Your case will be closed (or put on hold with nil assessment) but you can come to a private arrangement with the PWC.

Monkey1234

Thanks,
I've just heard if people re entering the country with massive back dated payments from the csa.

This other organisation how would they calculate payments? Or is it voluntary as to the amount. Bearing in mine my ex is not a reasonable person she will fight for every penny she can get

Thanks

kevin137

Monkey1234 wrote: »

Thanks,
I've just heard if people re entering the country with massive back dated payments from the csa.

This other organisation how would they calculate payments? Or is it voluntary as to the amount. Bearing in mine my ex is not a reasonable person she will fight for every penny she can get

Thanks

REMO is the only other way it is possible to claim, and that is only in countries that adhere to it, and Saudi Arabia is not one of them.

What you MUST do, is notify the CSA of your change of job IN WRITING SENT RECORDED DELIVERY, and also your change of address, AGINA RECORDED DELIVERY.

You can do this at any time, but advisable to do it 1 month beforehand and again 1 week beforehand, and keep the proof of postage. Also phone them in the last days to confirm they have the post...!!!

As for what your ex is entitled too...

Legally NOTHING and as there are NO agencies that can help her, she will be fighting with NO ONE...!!!

However, that is NOT to say that you cannot pay, but it would be voluntary, and best done by standing order at the same amount every month, it is NOT fair to start paying, stop paying, have varying amounts, she needs stability...!

Personally, i would pay at what you pay now with a little bit more, but you will need her bank details to pay, and is she is not going to give them to you, then not a lot you can do...

Any other thoughts you have ask... But don't get !!!!!y or argue over the money, you have no legal obligation with your ex, and while you may still be paying, that is a moral obligation, and it is not charity to hold over her...!

moaninggit

I think PWC stands for parent with child i could be wrong

shoe*diva79

Sorry, PWC means parent with care. Not another agency.

Excuse Kevin getting his knickers in a twist spouting off that your ex is entitled to nothing. You sound like the kind of father who is more then happy to share the financial burden of raising a child with your ex without getting all bitter towards the PWC.

My advice would be to ensure the CSA are aware of your change in circumstances in writing and by phone call. Explain your position to the PWC and offer her a reasonable amount of child maintenance. Is she happy with what your paying now?

Remember, whatever you give her can go a long way to a better lifestyle for your son. A nicer home, nicer food, nicer clothing, toys, latest gadgets/games consoles, holidays etc. If you were still together you would want your son to have the best standard of living so why would that change just because you and his mum are no longer a couple.

Good luck.

Monkey1234

I want my son to have the best upbringing possible, but I'd much rather my ex got more than enough for that to happen, but not enough to keep her in chloe handbags. I'd be more than happy to give her £500 a month, which I think is more than ample to raise a 3yo.

Monkey1234

I've heard if people working away then re entering the country with huge back dated payments though could this happen to me? Will they close my case then re open it when I return with a clean slate?
I guess I need to know when I return to the country even though I will not have done it through them enitially I will have done it through a solicitor I can prove to them I have payed my dues. But what will that amount be if they ask for it when I return? Is there like a base rate they will calculate from so I know I will be paying more than enough?

shoe*diva79

Monkey1234 wrote: »

I've heard if people working away then re entering the country with huge back dated payments though could this happen to me? Will they close my case then re open it when I return with a clean slate?
I guess I need to know when I return to the country even though I will not have done it through them enitially I will have done it through a solicitor I can prove to them I have payed my dues. But what will that amount be if they ask for it when I return? Is there like a base rate they will calculate from so I know I will be paying more than enough?

As long as you inform the CSA of your change in circumstances then you wont have arrears. It will just reopen when your back - if you or your ex reopen a case that is. You could just continue with your private arrangement.

kevin137

shoe*diva79 wrote: »

As long as you inform the CSA of your change in circumstances then you wont have arrears. It will just reopen when your back - if you or your ex reopen a case that is. You could just continue with your private arrangement.

Pardon me for stating what the legal stand point is...!!!

And did i not already state that morally he SHOULD pay...???

As i have already said, READ WHAT I WROTE...!!!

There is NO agency that can force you to pay, and if you notify correctly, then there can be NO arrears...!

What you want to pay through choice is no ones concern but yours and your conscience...! YOU DECIDE...!!!

The only thing that you need to be aware of for the future, is that ANY amount of cash/stock/2nd property is subject to assessment. Being if you have more than £65,000 that is NOT your primary property, then it can be used for assessment in the future. BUt that from what i gather is a long way of, but you need to be aware...!

Crellow4

There have been Commissioners decisions that money earned abroad is taken not account as income - not earnings. Providing you are still habitually resident the CSA can assess on this basis. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=csa%20working%20abroad%20income&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CEAQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marilynstowe.co.uk%2F2012%2F01%2F03%2Fthe-non-resident-nightmare-how-offshore-income-is-taken-into-account-for-child-support%2F&ei=Yx6eUaOnNIy1PaqfgNgE&usg=AFQjCNGbQXeAzCwJCvYtHGUZVtd59NI-Bw&bvm=bv.46865395,d.ZWU