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Boris: Quitting EU won't solve our problems
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Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »Nope.
I consider it my duty to continue to expose the true nature of UKIP. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant.
And quit the forumonics please.
You consider it your duty?
Ha ha - what a hero. You are a one man UKIP bashing machine.
Only problem is, the majority of what you post is rubbish, I have posted up a response to the stupid Daily Mirror article which - as expected you have conveniently ignored because it renders the Chris Pain story full of holes.
What you and, perhaps whatever Tory is behind this smear campaign seem to be forgetting is this;
Do you really think the British public are so stupid that they can't see the link between UKIP's recent local election success and all of a sudden the papers filled with dubious stories about UKIP representatives?
On a more positive note - UKIP are up in the polls again, only 2 points behind the arrogant posh boys.:T
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/05/ukip-just-two-points-behind-tories-new-poll
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/05/ukip-just-two-points-behind-tories-new-poll
So the smear campaign appears to be having the opposite effect that it is supposed to............. maybe people are getting sick of these vicious "tricks" and it is sending people to UKIP in their droves.
The smear campaign certainly looks like it may be a huge own goal at the moment.
As Mr Ree would say.
REJOICE0 -
Very big difference between legal and illegal immigration, they do have (theoretical) control of number regardless of how effective it is in practice.Are we talking about some alternate version of the US which isn't reliant on cheap labour from Mexico to perform menial work?
Point really is they have legal control over how many unskilled workers come, so they can be flexible to the needs of the US.0 -
However, the states have no power to stop unlimited numbers of migrant workers coming in from other states, whatever the consequences might be for the locals.Point really is they have legal control over how many unskilled workers come, so they can be flexible to the needs of the US."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Of course the best solution is to get people to move when there's work going begging, and otherwise make sure they're as well off staying put.
We can't have a Europe based on greedy rich countries staying rich by keeping poor countries poor, and expecting everybody to stay where they are. That's how wars start."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Sure, but that's like saying Scotland have no power to stop English people settling there, they're already in the country.However, the states have no power to stop unlimited numbers of migrant workers coming in from other states, whatever the consequences might be for the locals.
Bit different cross-country.0 -
However, the states have no power to stop unlimited numbers of migrant workers coming in from other states, whatever the consequences might be for the locals.
Yes, but we are not a United States of Europe.
Well...yet.
The same thing happens here with Wales, Scotland, England and NI.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Yes, but we are not a United States of Europe.
Yes, we're a European Union instead, where we maintain more autonomy than a US State does, and more cooperation (including in free movement of people and open markets) than an isolated country would.
Seems like the ideal middle ground.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Why is it different? If Texan workers are disadvantaged by immigrants coming over the border, they'll be equally disadvantaged by immigrants from Mexico or Louisiana.Bit different cross-country.
So why do they put up with the ones from Louisiana?"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
Do you really think the British public are so stupid that they can't see the link between UKIP's recent local election success and all of a sudden the papers filled with dubious stories about UKIP representatives?
Success in the polls brings more scrutiny from the press with it, that's unavoidable. And while a couple of rotten apples can be expected in every political party, UKIP seems to be swamped with them - including their leadership.
Those who voted UKIP with the intention of voting 'tory plus' will have there eyes opened when they realise they also voted for racism, bigotry, islamophobia and misogyny and think again.REJOICE
Indeed. :T0 -
Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »Success in the polls brings more scrutiny from the press with it, that's unavoidable. And while a couple of rotten apples can be expected in every political party, UKIP seems to be swamped with them - including their leadership.
Those who voted UKIP with the intention of voting 'tory plus' will have there eyes opened when they realise they also voted for racism, bigotry, islamophobia and misogyny and think again.
What you have written above is, once again, complete tosh, lies, misinterpretation and propaganda.
No matter how many times you repeat this rubbish, it will still be inaccurate and wrong.
You've just spouted it all out once again - yet I have seen no response from you yet regarding the information I posted that demonstrates the Mirror story about Chris Pain to be completely inaccurate.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=61370245&postcount=116
Quite literally, you have made inflammatory accusations about an individual based on nothing other than a Daily Mirror article.
You have any evidence at all?
Where is your evidence?
Do you know what evidence is?
You seem to think just because you say something - it makes it true.0
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