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Boris: Quitting EU won't solve our problems

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2013 at 10:41AM
    Generali wrote: »
    Because the party that would take the UK out of the EU would also stop most immigration or at least seek to.

    Because you say so? I thought I'd get better responses from you tbh. The party will NEVER take power. They seek to CHANGE politics and push their reforms through. They will be irrelevant come a referendum. Why do people keep assumning they have to take power? To form the basis of an argument?

    They want a cap of 50,000 placed on immigration and immigration to be based on bringing skills in to the country.

    Much like Australia.

    What's so wrong with that? The Slovak mentioned would still be able to come here, so long as he has something to offer, which he did. No problems.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    As far as I can make out the only reason that the anti-EU movement has gained any traction is immigration (most are not bothered about the rest), so presumably he wouldn't have the option of his Slovak plumber, or have I missed your point?

    You miss my point.

    NO ONE has said stop all immigration.

    Again, this relies on your creating a point to disagree with. Poor.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    olly300 wrote: »

    Do you know or work with Eastern Europeans to make this assumption? As I've stated before I have worked with, employed and actually lived next to Eastern Europeans. The vast majority of them are not going anywhere as they have children in UK schools or/and have a partner who is not Eastern European.


    That is the UK government's fault not the fault of immigrants.

    I have. Doctors come to work here, work for out of hours services and send the money home. They get a FAR superior live at home.

    To be honest, I admire them greatly.

    But that doesn't make the system right. Indeed, they would still be able to come here so long as we required them under any UKIP suggestion.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    You miss my point.

    NO ONE has said stop all immigration.

    Again, this relies on your creating a point to disagree with. Poor.

    I am confused now, so Mr Prickle could still use his Slovak plumber if we pulled out of the EU?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • They want a cap of 50,000 placed on immigration and immigration to be based on bringing skills in to the country.

    Much like Australia.

    Oh...they want a cap...skills based even...
    That's good to know.

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    I am confused now, so Mr Prickle could still use his Slovak plumber if we pulled out of the EU?

    Well, why couldn't he?

    The plumber lives here. He would still be able to come here if he has a skill required.

    The same as Australia. And we don't call the population Xenophobes, racists and bigots.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Oh...they want a cap...skills based even...
    That's good to know.

    2636_3486.jpg

    What does your picture show?

    So keen are you to prove a point it appears you have missed the very point of the picture.

    Read the words above it. Notably "open" and "door". It doesn't state "all immigration", does it. If it did, I certainly wouldn't be agreeing with it....but it appears you have no clue about what you are talking about.
  • What does your picture show?

    So keen are you to prove a point it appears you have missed the very point of the picture.

    Read the words above it. Notably "open" and "door". It doesn't state "all immigration", does it. If it did, I certainly wouldn't be agreeing with it....but it appears you have no clue about what you are talking about.

    Yes, I suppose even you can come up with several interpretations of "Sorry we're full".
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2013 at 11:49AM
    Yes, I suppose even you can come up with several interpretations of "Sorry we're full".

    Do you not get embarrased by yourself?

    Are you really going to ignore the words and put your own context on it? Blimey, you must be desperate.

    Infact, that's probably the worst, most embarrasing argument I've yet seen on this forum.
  • robmatic
    robmatic Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Such things as house prices, benefit levels etc.
    Many Eastern Europeans will work in the UK but send much odf their earnings back home. This is not good for the UK economy.

    Buying cars made in Germany or food grown in New Zealand has a similar effect on the UK economy, but people don't bang on about Audi undercutting British jobs.
    ILW wrote: »
    paying UK benefits to children living in Romania (at UK levels) is just daft.

    That is a problem with the benefits system, not immigration.
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