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Boris: Quitting EU won't solve our problems

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    That is rubbish and only works if everything else is equalised.

    What are you on about?
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Mr._Pricklepants
    Mr._Pricklepants Posts: 1,311 Forumite
    We had our bathroom redone before winter. Asked 4 plumbers to come around for a quote. 3 UK guys, 1 Slovak.
    One didn't even bother showing up.
    The other 3 provided similar quotes, we decided to go with the Slovak one as he could deliver in 10 days where the others had timeframes of between 2 and 3 weeks in mind.
    Extremely happy with the work he's done too. I'd happily recommend him.

    Anecdotal, I know.

    UK tradesmen are not undercut in price, they are undercut in quality, customer focus and work ethic.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »
    We had our bathroom redone before winter. Asked 4 plumbers to come around for a quote. 3 UK guys, 1 Slovak.
    One didn't even bother showing up.
    The other 3 provided similar quotes, we decided to go with the Slovak one as he could deliver in 10 days where the others had timeframes of between 2 and 3 weeks in mind.
    Extremely happy with the work he's done too. I'd happily recommend him.

    Anecdotal, I know.

    UK tradesmen are not undercut in price, they are undercut in quality, customer focus and work ethic.

    And why would you not be able to do this if we left the EU?

    Please explain.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Graham_Devon wrote: »
    And why would you not be able to do this if we left the EU?

    Please explain.

    Because the party that would take the UK out of the EU would also stop most immigration or at least seek to.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Graham_Devon wrote: »
    And why would you not be able to do this if we left the EU?

    Please explain.

    As far as I can make out the only reason that the anti-EU movement has gained any traction is immigration (most are not bothered about the rest), so presumably he wouldn't have the option of his Slovak plumber, or have I missed your point?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    What are you on about?

    Such things as house prices, benefit levels etc.
    Many Eastern Europeans will work in the UK but send much odf their earnings back home. This is not good for the UK economy.
    paying UK benefits to children living in Romania (at UK levels) is just daft.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Such things as house prices, benefit levels etc.
    Many Eastern Europeans will work in the UK but send much odf their earnings back home. This is not good for the UK economy.
    A presumption.

    Do you know or work with Eastern Europeans to make this assumption? As I've stated before I have worked with, employed and actually lived next to Eastern Europeans. The vast majority of them are not going anywhere as they have children in UK schools or/and have a partner who is not Eastern European.
    ILW wrote: »
    paying UK benefits to children living in Romania (at UK levels) is just daft.
    That is the UK government's fault not the fault of immigrants.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    A presumption.

    Do you know or work with Eastern Europeans to make this assumption? As I've stated before I have worked with, employed and actually lived next to Eastern Europeans. The vast majority of them are not going anywhere as they have children in UK schools or/and have a partner who is not Eastern European.


    That is the UK government's fault not the fault of immigrants.

    Don't think anybody is blaming the immigrants.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Don't think anybody is blaming the immigrants.

    You are blaming them for house price increases when outside London houses prices aren't increasing. Plus the immigrants who are buying houses tend to be very rich immigrants who come from all over the world and a lot don't pay tax here.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    You are blaming them for house price increases when outside London houses prices aren't increasing. Plus the immigrants who are buying houses tend to be very rich immigrants who come from all over the world and a lot don't pay tax here.
    Many poorer immigrants have caused rental prices to increase. (Not because they want to, jut due to supply and demand). Quite a lot in London suburbs.
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