NHS v Private crownS

Toothsmith

20 years ago, the vast majority of crowns were provided on the NHS, and funding was such that they could still be made pretty well.

Savvy_Sue

Nile wrote: »

It's still there...............at the bottom of the page.;)

Must have been in my blind spot - I couldn't see it! :rotfl:(the names of the board guides ...)

steff_2

hi i have just got back from the dentist who told me i need root canal and a crown done on one tooth, i was told nhs would cost £198 and private would cost £740 a big differance, he advised me to get the root canal done private as the time and technics would be better, but if it is the same dentist preforming the root canal shouldnt the technics be the same?

Toothsmith

steff wrote: »

hi i have just got back from the dentist who told me i need root canal and a crown done on one tooth, i was told nhs would cost £198 and private would cost £740 a big differance, he advised me to get the root canal done private as the time and technics would be better, but if it is the same dentist preforming the root canal shouldnt the technics be the same?

In an ideal world - yes they should.

Really, if he doesn't think he can do the job properly on the NHS, then he shouldn't do NHS stuff at all. I don't.

mummyyummy_2

toothsmith, i was at dentist today. he said i need a temp crown replaced and another crown put next to it (2 top middle front teeth) and would bridge it? and i need 4 fillings (yes i know im terrified that why i leave it so long) anyway, he is an nhs dentist, although im not exempt so ill have to pay..he said in total £300, £198 for crowns and £88 for fillings, im presuming the rest must be examintion/check up charges..is this correct then? would you advise me and OH getting some type dental insurance plan as he is also about to start some major work too..ps i also wanna get teeth whitened, i know nhs wont do this, how much roughly does it cost and can i get it when ive got crowns? thankyou

mummyyummy_2

oh yeah, and prob a really really dumb question, but why do NHS charge for you to see a dentist but not a doctor? always wondered that?

Toothsmith

mummyyummy wrote: »

he said in total £300, £198 for crowns and £88 for fillings, im presuming the rest must be examintion/check up charges..is this correct then? would you advise me and OH getting some type dental

This is complete rubbish - the most you pay for one course of NHS treatment (In England and Wales) is £198.

That would include check up, any X-rays, clean up, any number of fillings, root fillings and crowns.

If there were no crowns involved, the charge would be £44.20.

What's with 'temporary' crowns anyway?

If this dentist is telling you that this is NHS treatment, and NHS charges, then he is committing fraud, and a complaint to the PCT would be in order.

Toothsmith

mummyyummy wrote: »

oh yeah, and prob a really really dumb question, but why do NHS charge for you to see a dentist but not a doctor? always wondered that?

That was started by a Labour government in 1948 - a year after they started the NHS, when the dumb £sses realized they'd bankrupt the country if dentistry remained free of charge on the NHS.

All governments have been trying to squeeze dentistry completely out of the NHS ever since.

The political history of dentistry in the NHS really is fascinating, and if they lie about other subjects as much as they do about dentistry, then we're all up the proverbial creek without a paddle!

mummyyummy_2

Toothsmith wrote: »

This is complete rubbish - the most you pay for one course of NHS treatment (In England and Wales) is £198.

That would include check up, any X-rays, clean up, any number of fillings, root fillings and crowns.

If there were no crowns involved, the charge would be £44.20.

What's with 'temporary' crowns anyway?

If this dentist is telling you that this is NHS treatment, and NHS charges, then he is committing fraud, and a complaint to the PCT would be in order.

Im in scotland, does that make any difference? i also wondered, does it make a dif to price if dentist makes treatment last a bit longer..i.e. rather than doing it over a 6 week/2 month timescale, what if he was busy and it went over 3 / 4 months, would that make a diff to price? what im trying to say lol is, is there a timescale on treatment that wouldnt qualify it for the standard £198? also, my friend seeing that dentist too and has to get 3 or 4 dentures on a plate..she has choice of metal / acrylic? would that also come under the £198 top price? she had an exemption card as she works full time, but as a single mum gets working tax credits which we dont..thankyou

Toothsmith

mummyyummy wrote: »

Im in scotland, does that make any difference? i also wondered, does it make a dif to price if dentist makes treatment last a bit longer..i.e. rather than doing it over a 6 week/2 month timescale, what if he was busy and it went over 3 / 4 months, would that make a diff to price? what im trying to say lol is, is there a timescale on treatment that wouldnt qualify it for the standard £198? also, my friend seeing that dentist too and has to get 3 or 4 dentures on a plate..she has choice of metal / acrylic? would that also come under the £198 top price? she had an exemption card as she works full time, but as a single mum gets working tax credits which we dont..thankyou

Right - that's why I always put in the 'England and Wales' bit now. Our 'NATIONAL' health service is now different in different regions.

Scotland still works on the pre-April 2006 system, and there are different charges for each item of treatment, and a max charge of somewhere in the £300 range.

I'm not well up enough on the charge regimes and structures on the NHS in Scotland to be able to gve any meaningful advice here, but the earlier charges you quoted for your treatment may well be NHS charges up there. There should be a leaflet available either at the dental practice, or from the PCT that would give you an idea of the charges, and who pays them.