The cost of training

Takeaway_Addict

Ramagamma wrote: »

I don't think it's an official apprenticeship. It's through a company called "Training Solutions".

As for contracts, I don't think she has anything official. She frequently gets asked to work a "late" for example. This only means she has to stay for 15 minutes past her normal time but this does make her miss her bus home.

I've certainly never seen anything she's signed that establishes hours or rate of pay.

Lastly, all the other people that work at the nursery and get paid at least minimum wage all have this qualification.

I've always felt something was not quite right about these employment terms.

Doesn't answer the question of whether she HAS to have this qualification to work there though.

And just because the terms are not in writing doesn't make it official.

I have staff that train up via companies like this but its not a requisite for working for me and if they decided the funding was pulled then I would give my staff the option....quit it or pay for it themselves.

Fluff15

http://www.youngscot.org/info/126-national-minimum-wage

If she's been working there since leaving school and is 19, she is entitled to a higher wage, official apprentice or not. She should be demanding more, she's getting practically half her wages!

If they don't agree, she should look for another job that actually pays her what she deserves and with a proper contract. She's got 3 years working experience under her belt, so that works in her favour and she's still young enough to enrol in a college course for free (or at least that's the rules here, I hope it's the same in Scotland).

It really sounds like she's getting done over at the moment, I hope things get sorted soon.

Ramagamma

Sorry to drudge up an old thread but the nursery have done something that sounds to me quite odd.

They have told my g/f that unless numbers pick up in the nursery, they won't be keeping her on once she qualifies. Fair enough, that's life. However they have cut her hours from 40 per week to 25 per week with the intention of giving her more free time to spend on the coursework side of things.

The strange thing is they have increased her wages from £2.65 per hour to £5.00 per hour. They have told her once she earns her level 2 qualification, she'll have to find another nursery to do her level 3 and then she'll be fully qualified.

Strange stuff. I don't even know how to feel about this. £100 better off for probably 2 days a week less work but under the pretence once she's finished, she's out the door. Just weird.

Ramagamma

Well hello, it's me against with the latest saga in my girlfriends nursery job.

Since I last posted, she has had her hours put up to a full 40 a week, earning £5 an hour. The nursery also changed managers and my girlfriend was told by the new manager that she'll be getting kept on till she is at least fully qualified. Not to her face mind you, but to the old manager who my girlfriend occasionally still speaks too.

She has now finished her level 2 and is due to start her level 3 soon. The nursery manager told her the other day, via the owner that she has 2 options in undertaking her last step of qualification.

Either she drops out the nursery, goes to college earns the qualification and then finds another nursery to continue as a fully qualified childcare worker.

Option 2 is to continue working full time in the nursery earning her qualification in her free time. Now, because her wages will have to go up when she turns 21 in April and because the nursery needs a full time member of staff, she has been told she will have to work 20 hours paid and 20 hours unpaid a week.

Understandably she is upset about this. Frankly it sounds ridiculous to me. They don't want to hire a new full time member, but they also don't want to pay a trainee full time wages.

She doesn't have a contract, despite working there for almost 3 years. She is planning to go to the citizens advice and she is also starting to look at other jobs.

Any thoughts? Is this nursery being blatantly unfair. To me it sounds too ridiculous to be real? Any experience anyone has with this kind of employment law would be grateful.

Thank you

Ramagamma

Takeaway_Addict

Ramagamma wrote: »

Well hello, it's me against with the latest saga in my girlfriends nursery job.

Since I last posted, she has had her hours put up to a full 40 a week, earning £5 an hour. The nursery also changed managers and my girlfriend was told by the new manager that she'll be getting kept on till she is at least fully qualified. Not to her face mind you, but to the old manager who my girlfriend occasionally still speaks too.

She has now finished her level 2 and is due to start her level 3 soon. The nursery manager told her the other day, via the owner that she has 2 options in undertaking her last step of qualification.

Either she drops out the nursery, goes to college earns the qualification and then finds another nursery to continue as a fully qualified childcare worker.

Option 2 is to continue working full time in the nursery earning her qualification in her free time. Now, because her wages will have to go up when she turns 21 in April and because the nursery needs a full time member of staff, she has been told she will have to work 20 hours paid and 20 hours unpaid a week.

Understandably she is upset about this. Frankly it sounds ridiculous to me. They don't want to hire a new full time member, but they also don't want to pay a trainee full time wages.

She doesn't have a contract, despite working there for almost 3 years. She is planning to go to the citizens advice and she is also starting to look at other jobs.

Any thoughts? Is this nursery being blatantly unfair. To me it sounds too ridiculous to be real? Any experience anyone has with this kind of employment law would be grateful.

Thank you

Ramagamma

See Post 9....plus you never actually answered the original questions!

And, I would suggest you get HER to post either here or on the redundacyforum.co.uk because there are likely to be more questions people will need answer and second hand information is not always clear.