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lisa870

me and my ex split 3 years ago, he was paying a voluntary payment monthly but was then taken to csa not by myself but by another woman who also has a child with him, well supposedly anyway, dna is being done, now he doesnt pay me a thing and the csa got in touch with me to put a claim together, they said this would be the best thing to do as he was already going through them with this other woman, i had a phone call today to tell me i wasn't entitled to anything?? i dont understand why i wouldn't be entitled to anything he is working (has his own business) all they would tell me is the documentation he has show means he doesn't have to pay a penny towards his own children all three children are his and were born when we were married, can anyone help me understand why this man gets away with not paying for his own flesh and blood???? please help x

Bluemeanie_2

Hello. It sounds like if he has got his own business, he has fixed his income to show that the business is making a loss, or he is aying himself nothing and ploughing the money back into the business. Search threads/forum for "self employed" and you will see it is all too common.

kevin137

Welcome to the world of the CSA...!

The long and short of it, is that you will get screwed from now to the end of time.

The best you can hope for is that you can prove he is living beyond his means, IE owns 3 cars, 2 properties, and has 4 holidays a year and only declares £10,000 a year, then they may be able to do something...

It will be a long hard fight, and not an easy one unfortunately...

Start by applying for a variation. Then look at things like FB to prove he has a bigger income, screen dumps, save pics etc to prove what he is doing. Hard if you don't have access to stuff, but it is down to you to prove...

lisa870

ah thank you both, yes well it seems that he must be fiddling the books or something, what gets me is why would he not want to provide for his own children, hes working, i didnt ask to go through csa and was quite happy getting the amount we mutually decided, he was the one that chose do do it that way. oh well any way thank you both for answering :A

Gair_Rhydd

"the csa got in touch with me to put a claim together, they said this would be the best thing to do"

Hmmm. That's not really how the CSA operates. For some time now their policy has been to get people to make their own arrangements. They don't go looking for business because each case is more cost for the taxpayer.

Of course the father might have asked for your child to be included in the other case so all his kids are equally provided for. But as you say he's not paying for any of them then he's no incentive to broaden his liability, has he?

kevin137

Gair_Rhydd wrote: »

Of course the father might have asked for your child to be included in the other case so all his kids are equally provided for. But as you say he's not paying for any of them then he's no incentive to broaden his liability, has he?

The CSA would advise what the reality is if another PWC out in a claim. And at that point, he would be given the option to open a claim...

The whole not earning enough is a different story, but the opening of a case to me sounds pretty normal...!!!

In the case of a self employed NRP, if he had been trading for a while and fiddling his HMRC Tax Returns, then it would be very easy to get a NIL assessment...!

Which is why a variation or living beyond his means needs to be looked into with more than just a passing glance...

IE if he is single, lives in a £300,000 house but only declares £20,000 a year, then there would be grounds. if he had just bought the house... You see what that looks like...??? That is how you get maintenance from a Self Employed person, you go after how they live...!