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A simple question about debt.

If large numbers of the population and most governments are in debt, whose got all the money?
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  • andy.m_2
    andy.m_2 Posts: 1,521 Forumite
    That premise only works if the promissary is the same volume as the assets.
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  • Mr._Pricklepants
    Mr._Pricklepants Posts: 1,311 Forumite
    If large numbers of the population and most governments are in debt, whose got all the money?

    The boomers :)

    But seriously,
    There's 1.1 trillion in UK deposit and savings accounts
    4 trillion if we include pensions, shares, bonds...
    5 trillion in housing wealth
  • mcfisco
    mcfisco Posts: 1,957 Forumite
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    It's an inverted Ponzi scheme
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    basically some-ones debt is some-one else's savings so the total equals zero

    much government debt is borrowed from their own citizens so e.g much of the Japanese government debt of 250% GDP is owed to Japanese people.
    If I recall correctly 70% of UK government debt is owed to UK people

    china has an enormous surplus

    I'm sure the internet will provide lots of answers.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Most of the money is held by the banks.

    There is no particular logic in the idea that putting your money into a bank should be any less risky than buying gold, stocks and shares, or property etc etc.

    The depositors of the Cyprus banks apparently were about to lose lots of their money, but it is a bit odd that we have heard nothing at all about it since the actual event.

    The UK deficit could probably be cleared overnight by taking the money from the banks which caused the problem in the first place.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    If large numbers of the population and most governments are in debt, whose got all the money?

    Tied up in overpriced assets. Globally money supply is contracting. Hence the pain. As banks cancel and destroy the paper.
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,795 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Tied up in overpriced assets. Globally money supply is contracting. Hence the pain. As banks cancel and destroy the paper.

    My pain comes from my cash that is reluctantly earning only 2.6% gross, ok I have more on higher rates, but I also have enough earning a mere 2.6% waiting to buy a house with.
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  • Thrugelmir
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    My pain comes from my cash that is reluctantly earning only 2.6% gross, ok I have more on higher rates, but I also have enough earning a mere 2.6% waiting to buy a house with.

    Like lots of other people then. Chasing other investments in the hope of obtaining a better yield.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »

    I'm sure the internet will provide lots of answers.

    The Internet...like here?:D

    It's the sort of question we should see more of IMO. Simple, refreshing and something a lot of people just don't know and understand.

    Great question OP.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    The Internet...like here?:D

    It's the sort of question we should see more of IMO. Simple, refreshing and something a lot of people just don't know and understand.

    Great question OP.


    Maybe, so although most of the posts have been rubbish.

    What I actually meant, is there are a lot of details about debt/surpluses by country both for government and private debt on the internet and there is info about who holds government debt.
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