Working hours question

markeymark

dancingfairy wrote: »

Are you in a union? Might be worth getting in touch with them on this?
df

Yes I'm in a union, to be honest they not wanting us to do them, but they allowed managers to do them!

I've looked through the WTD but cannot see if their is a law on the longest actual shift you can work is? Can only see maximum of 48 hours a week limit, which we don't infringe

getmore4less

markeymark wrote: »

Our nightshift workers do not get official breaks away from the workplace, they are allowed to eat on post, does it make any difference because we work in a prison ie exceptions etc

there will be another class of exemption due to the 24/7 nature of the job.

I think you would benifit from readng the regulations.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/1833/contents/made
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/1684/contents/made
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/2079/contents/made
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2009/1567/contents/made
etc.

markeymark

I've checked all of them but can only find the time limits for night workers, doesn't mention anything else

getmore4less

There will be no upper limit

The employer decides when it wants people to work(within the regulations) not the employees.

The contract of employment will most likley cover this change.

Opting in/out of the WTD is not relevent unless you want to do more than 48hrs.

markeymark

So technically they cannot set an upper limit in their policy?

I know it's the employer who chose when the employees work, that is not the point I'm trying to make, what I'm trying to say is we would like the flexibility back to chose to help a work colleague out if they require more flexible time off, ie I work his early shift, and then continue working onto my backshift. Then he does the same for me, so we basically get an extra day off

Hope I've explained this correctly.

getmore4less

markeymark wrote: »

So technically they cannot set an upper limit in their policy?
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Technicaly they can set any limits they like.

It is problaly this shift swapping they are trying to clamp down on, makes a moccery of them putting out any rotas that try to comply with the regulations giving adiquate time for rest periods.

There is also the H&S issue of working long hours and having your judgment comprimised.

markeymark

It's not making a mockery if posts are being covered and we agreeing to do them?

They allow staff to work over 72 hours in a week, so I cannot see a problem with letting a member of staff working 1 hour and 15 minutes over their 12 hour limit