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Child moving from one parent to the other

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The background... My daughter has lived with her mother for the last 10 years during which I have been paying child support
at above the CSA calculation (15% of Net), due to mother relocating to an isolated palce in Wales and other issues with the relationship
between DD and her mother DD has decided she wants to live with me instead, her mother has baulked at having the child benefit transferred
to me, but has had to agree, she is getting more "concerned" to be losing the CS that I have been paying her, I mentioned that we would need
to either agree to or go via the CSA for her to start paying me CS instead from the 1st May, she agreed this on the phone with me, but in a
later conversation with my eldest daughter said "I am not going to pay CS to your dad for XXXXX as he earns to much and his girlfriend earns a lot as well"
she seems it to be unfair that she is expected to pay CS to me now that DD lives with me because I have a reasonable job and two incomes into the house.
The question is; is CS decided on the basis that myself and my partner are doing ok financially or does this not come into it? my ex, DD's mother seems
a lot more upset at losing a total of £600 a month (CB, Tax Credits and CS) rather than her daughter moving 200 miles away!:mad:

Any advice would be appreciated thanks!!
every time I manage to get one more breath into this body, I will sing a song of thanks to you my brothers, my sisters, my friends, may your sleep be peaceful, and angels sing sweetly in your ears.

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  • skibadee
    skibadee Posts: 1,304 Forumite
    Does your ex work?.....I don't think under CSA2 it makes any difference how much YOU have coming in to YOUR household but is based on 15% of NRP's income (if working) also does your ex have any other dependent children living with her?
  • Hi, she does work, claims DLA and other benefits on top, there are no other children at home.

    Thanks for the info!
    every time I manage to get one more breath into this body, I will sing a song of thanks to you my brothers, my sisters, my friends, may your sleep be peaceful, and angels sing sweetly in your ears.
  • sfm82
    sfm82 Posts: 185 Forumite
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    As skibabdee said, CSA2 is calculated at 15% of the NRP's total income your income has nothing to do with it.

    Before pursuing Child maintenance through the CSA I would get all the CB and child tax credits etc into your name and paid into your bank account as the CSA tend to use who CB is paid to as an indicator of who the resident parent is.

    If your ex is being unreasonable now without a maintenance agreement in place the chances are that with a private agreement she may not be forthcoming with her child maintenance payments which may lead to a lot of hassle and bother on your part trying to get her to live up to her responsibilities. Do you want to have to deal with her every month if she doesn't pay?....what does your gut tell you is the best thing to do?
  • tiggerbodhi
    tiggerbodhi Posts: 415 Forumite
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    Gut feeling is that she will find every reason not to pay, fails to pay her bills to phone co, utilities etc even though her income was/is more than enough to do this, her main worry seemed to be with DD moving to me was the loss of £350 CM from me, £80 CB, £115 Tax Credits, I do understand that there will be an impact on her "lifestyle" as she rented a house with three bedrooms, but now possibly wont be able to afford this, so when her let is up in a month she will have to move somewhere smaller, sorry if my reaction is harse but "welcome to my world" was my first reaction as one of the reasons for DD wanting to leave is that she gets nothing, mother alledges it costs over £280 a month to feed her! for an example they moved to Wales in December, DD only got a mattress for her bed two weeks ago, nice new dishwasher, washing machine and sewing machine before christmas...rant over!

    Anyway have called CSA, they have closed my case of me paying her, have started a new case for her to pay me, now waiting for the drama queening.....:mad:
    every time I manage to get one more breath into this body, I will sing a song of thanks to you my brothers, my sisters, my friends, may your sleep be peaceful, and angels sing sweetly in your ears.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    Gut feeling is that she will find every reason not to pay, fails to pay her bills to phone co, utilities etc even though her income was/is more than enough to do this, her main worry seemed to be with DD moving to me was the loss of £350 CM from me, £80 CB, £115 Tax Credits, I do understand that there will be an impact on her "lifestyle" as she rented a house with three bedrooms, but now possibly wont be able to afford this, so when her let is up in a month she will have to move somewhere smaller, sorry if my reaction is harse but "welcome to my world" was my first reaction as one of the reasons for DD wanting to leave is that she gets nothing, mother alledges it costs over £280 a month to feed her! for an example they moved to Wales in December, DD only got a mattress for her bed two weeks ago, nice new dishwasher, washing machine and sewing machine before christmas...rant over!

    Anyway have called CSA, they have closed my case of me paying her, have started a new case for her to pay me, now waiting for the drama queening.....:mad:


    Don't worry about her probs, I'm sure when the tables were turned, nobody cared for you, you only have to look at some of the threads, once a case is on the go, she can run but not hide, even if she contributes £5 a week, then it's something.
  • beanfro
    beanfro Posts: 23 Forumite
    DUTR wrote: »
    Don't worry about her probs, I'm sure when the tables were turned, nobody cared for you, you only have to look at some of the threads, once a case is on the go, she can run but not hide, even if she contributes £5 a week, then it's something.

    Quite right there, I think you ought to focus on making sure your ex giving you something towards your daughter's upkeep seeing as she wasn't benefitting at all from the CSA payments that were going to her mum.

    I guess you could say that you owe it to your daughter to pursue your ex through the CSA.
  • Barneysmom
    Barneysmom Posts: 10,136 Ambassador
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    I can't really add to what others have said but just wanted to wish you luck, I think you might be in for a battle.
    Try not to let your daughter see you annoyed with her mom, no matter how rough it gets.
    Be the good guy 'cos that's what you are x
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  • skibadee
    skibadee Posts: 1,304 Forumite
    Good luck...I think your going to need it!!.....make sure you get a letter from CSA confirming YOUR case has been closed!
  • londonTiger
    londonTiger Posts: 4,903 Forumite
    the system favours women. It's been set up in order to get money from fathers to give to mothers. Not the non-custodial parent to give to the custodial parent.

    They will find some sort of technicality to not pay, if the situation was reversed. The CSA wouldn;t think twice about taking money from OP to give to the mother.
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