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Cash in hand???

Hello,
I make my own liqueurs using brand name vodka for fun. A couple of months ago a friend had some: he loved it and said I should sell it.

He has some contacts who own bars in my aread who may be interested in selling it.

I have checked with my Council and seling it wholesale I wont need a license. I am just checking if I will need my kitchen inspected.

I will only making a max of about £20 profit I would guess (im doing it more for fun then for a serious business.) Due to the smalll amount of profit do I need to tell the tax people?
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  • Phil_68
    Phil_68 Posts: 140 Forumite
    Any income you make needs to be informed. You have 3 months from starting to 'sell' to make them aware.

    Get in touch, they really are very friendly, and you could actually write a fair amount off your start up costs and get a nice rebate ;)

    Phil.
    Life - It's only a once in a lifetime experience.
  • Mistral001
    Mistral001 Posts: 5,445 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 18 April 2013 at 10:40AM
    fevdou wrote: »
    Hello,
    I make my own liqueurs using brand name vodka for fun. A couple of months ago a friend had some: he loved it and said I should sell it.

    He has some contacts who own bars in my aread who may be interested in selling it.

    I have checked with my Council and seling it wholesale I wont need a license. I am just checking if I will need my kitchen inspected.

    I will only making a max of about £20 profit I would guess (im doing it more for fun then for a serious business.) Due to the smalll amount of profit do I need to tell the tax people?

    I first thought that this was a late April Fools joke, but assuming it is not, the one essential thing you have to do is get the permission of the vodka company.
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    I can't help feeling there is some proofing etc legislation that will kibosh this plan. Proofing is extremely important - if the label says x% alcohol, that's what it has to contain.

    Too little and you're selling underproof which weights and measures will come down on. Worse still, you could be selling too strong, someone could drive after taking your drink having calculated they can have 1 or 2 and be 'safe' - they kill someone, found drunk, lose their license, and all your fault...

    Maybe there are no legal laws specifically about this, but I can't help feel there probably are, seeing just how regulated the licensed trade is.
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    And insurance will be essential of course - I can't see that being cheap!
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    OP, I'm in agreement with the above, whilst it may look like a good business plan to you it looks like a non starter to me. You may not need a licence to sell your 'product' but you will most definitely need more than one licence to produce it, register it, proof it and market it and that is if you can get branding rights.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • Not to mention the hygiene certificates and inspections you'd need in order to sell food products at all. Probably best keeping it among mates, maybe with some sort of barter system- a bottle of your liqueur for a home made meal or something.
  • Phil_68
    Phil_68 Posts: 140 Forumite
    fevdou wrote: »

    I have checked with my Council and seling it wholesale I wont need a license. I am just checking if I will need my kitchen inspected.

    You might also want a quick read of this https://www.gov.uk/alcohol-licensing
    Just to clear things up with your council ;)
    Life - It's only a once in a lifetime experience.
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    So you're going to sell someone else's vodka under your own brand name/label? I think we all know where this will end up....
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • You can't sell alcohol without a licence. The bars cannot sell any kind of bootleg alcohol, that has been brewed or mixed in someones kitchen. Plain and simple.

    The bars in question have a legal obligation to their customers to sell only legally obtained products. They must be able to prove that all products come from reputable sources.
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    According to some business forums you don't need a licence to supply alcohol wholesale as long as it is in sealed kegs or multiple cases of spirits rather than the odd bottle or case.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
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