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For Frack's Sake...The Green Argument for Fracking

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  • the_flying_pig
    the_flying_pig Posts: 2,349 Forumite
    it's such a horrible word, 'fracking'.

    they'd be better off rebranding it as 'hydrocleansing' or something.
    FACT.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    Of course there are risks in any energy source.

    Indeed, but as someone who was living less than two miles from Buncefield when it exploded and who had friends and family members who would have been killed or wounded if they were at their workplaces, I'm quite a fan of heavy touch regulation of such industries personally.

    There's nothing quite like being woken at 6am thinking a jet has crash landed at the end of your street to crystalise one's thoughts on such matters.
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  • I would have thought that the fact we have been in a global recession since 2007 would have a lot to do with the reduced emissions, despite the report airily talking about recessions ending in 2009. Also, moving from dirty coal to less dirty gas can improve CO2 figures, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem that the US needs to reduce its energy consumption and increase its use of renewables.
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Indeed, but as someone who was living less than two miles from Buncefield when it exploded and who had friends and family members who would have been killed or wounded if they were at their workplaces, I'm quite a fan of heavy touch regulation of such industries personally.

    There's nothing quite like being woken at 6am thinking a jet has crash landed at the end of your street to crystalise one's thoughts on such matters.

    Interesting accident Bunsfield. Certainly brings some questions about sensible town planning.
  • System
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    it's such a horrible word, 'fracking'.

    they'd be better off rebranding it as 'hydrocleansing' or something.


    They'll do that after the first accident.
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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,246 Forumite
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    PaulF81 wrote: »
    Interesting accident Bunsfield. Certainly brings some questions about sensible town planning.


    To be fair when it was built it was in a rural location and when they expanded Hemel nearby they did put industrial/office units on the land not housing so I guess there was some thought given as generally in Hertfordshire any piece of land will most profitably be developed as housing....

    ...sadly today I think we can add the West to the list of places with interesting coplacement of dangerous industrial facilities and a residential population :(
    I think....
  • robmatic
    robmatic Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    We have millions of tons of coal. Lets start using that rather than relying on imported fuel.

    We'd probably have to rely on imported labour to dig it out.

    There's no danger that any of today's generation of Media Studies graduates will be keen on entering the workforce as a grubby miner.
  • ILW wrote: »
    We have millions of tons of coal. Lets start using that rather than relying on imported fuel.

    Apart from the expense of getting it out of the ground (and danger to the workforce), we'd be going back to the days of acid rain and being the 'dirty man' of Europe.

    Far better to take the money that you'd have to spend to re-open mines and retrain the workforce and invest in renewable technologies.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    and invest in renewable technologies.


    Trouble is that is just another money pit.

    What will provide, on demand power, 24/7/365 to cater for high and continuous demand?

    It may cater for localised demand where the limitations can be accepted.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    robmatic wrote: »
    We'd probably have to rely on imported labour to dig it out.

    There's no danger that any of today's generation of Media Studies graduates will be keen on entering the workforce as a grubby miner.

    Capped benefits with work placements stacking shelves or good wages in a permanent long term job might focus the mind.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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