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Tax avoidance after the state funeral
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Whats wrong with tax avoidance? Surely its a bit foolish paying money for things you dont have to?
Keeps me in a job too0 -
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Whats wrong with tax avoidance? Surely its a bit foolish paying money for things you dont have to?
Keeps me in a job too.
“Most wealthy people pay their taxes – and without them we could not begin to afford the public services on which the country depends. But under the last government, it was the boast of some high earners that, with the help of their accountants, they were paying less in tax than their cleaners. I regard tax evasion and, indeed, aggressive tax avoidance, as morally repugnant,”
George Osborne.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e4b90a3c-7379-11e1-94ba-00144feab49a.html#ixzz2QMrr7rFv
..........................................Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Better than Gordon's boom and bust legacy which is going to be with us for decades yet.
Well it was no worse.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Anyone can opt out of PAYE by working for themselves.You make my point very well. People on PAYE have no choice, neither do those who are retired.
The fact that you approve of your friends abusing the tax system and choose not to report those doing what you say are illegal things says a lot about yourself. Its quite typical of the immoral behaviour that Thatcher encouraged in her policies.
I am comfortable with what the Telegraph said, its a State funeral in all but name. The difference in cost is about £1m. Split hairs as to what it is called if you must.0 -
I was around at the time of the Falklands and I think it was the last time a felt a sense of pride in Britain standing up for and defending it's own.Oh I lived through those egregious times. So please do explain your assertion of billions saved (I can see that you would rather discuss that than defend the morality of her tax avoidance..!)
But as a start......we did not make modest investments to protect a small island and spent a fortune and many lives recovering the situation. I remember the 3.5m unemployed which must have cost a fortune, Then there was the bureaucratic poll tax that cost a fortune to administer and collect, Also he undervalued state assets sold off to fund current expenditure (ie tax cuts), and her final decision to join the ERM which led 2 years later to her successor presiding over us spending £6bn in one day defending the pound.
The only savings I can think of were the cutbacks in education and health.
Its amazing that she also presided over an increase in government spending of 12% in real terms.0 -
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So please do explain your assertion of billions saved (I can see that you would rather discuss that than defend the morality of her tax avoidance..!)
I was thinking of privatisation, which also spread ownership and wealth, and increased tax receipts. In terms of tax avoidance, if she broke the law, that's wrong. If she didn't, what's the problem?If you will the end, you must will the means.0 -
I was around at the time of the Falklands and I think it was the last time a felt a sense of pride in Britain standing up for and defending it's own.
Yes it was a time of great pride as the Task Force set sail ( I even went to Portsmouth and watched it go). And by the skin of our teeth we re-occupied the islands. Great credit to our forces and those who perished in trying.
It saved Mrs T's bacon, and she had the luck with her, and her place in history is now secure. Captain Nick Barker had a different perspective on the political incompetence of 1979-81.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-captain-nicholas-barker-1266075.htmlFew people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
I was thinking of privatisation, which also spread ownership and wealth, and increased tax receipts. In terms of tax avoidance, if she broke the law, that's wrong. If she didn't, what's the problem?
Privatisation merely sold the family silver. Didn't save anything apart from our bacon for a few years.
It was paid for by previous generations and we will all pay all over again several times over to maintain services.
For someone with such strong convictions coming from a Methodist background I am surprised she went in for wholesale avoidance, on such a grand scale, if what is written in the press is correct."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0
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