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Suspended pending dismissal for Gross Misconduct **UPDATE**
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OP it is looking a lot more positive for you than when you first posted. Your line manager clearly seems to think you will not be sacked for it, and it may well be that he can put a good word in for you to the manager hearing your disciplinary.
I would go in there very contrite, say sorry, say what you've learned from the experience.
Let them sit in judgement and come back to you.
I bet my bottom dollar you just get a warning - you may not even get demoted!
The time to talk about what's happened to other people would be at an appeal stage.
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I know you have said you have been suspended, was this in writing, and if so did it not state you must not contact any other member of staff, I mention it as you say you have spoken with your line manager? Did he/she ring you or the other way around.
If you rang them I would be very careful not to mention this at any meeting if your suspension advised not contacting any member of staff in any way.
It does sound more positive, and I really hope when you come back to post after the meeting you will have been given a second chance.Some Days are Diamonds Some Days are Stones,Sometimes the hard times won't leave meBSC 162:beer:Banktupt 22 Oct 2008 at 10am!0 -
I was only used to take minutes of the HR meeting as the actual minute taker was trying to get to the venue but broke down on the way. I take minutes weekly for various meetings so that's why I was called in. I personally think every employee is in a position of trust whatever they do!
I was suspense Wednesday at 5:30pm verbally. I've still not had any notice of suspension. I wasn't told not to contact anyone or have contact with staff members. I was told I could contact my support person (branch manager, line manager and director and HR if I needed to. I spoke to my support person yesterday, but went to my line manager today to discuss if I should just resign. I started the conversation asking if I was ok to discuss this with him and he said yes. I'm confident I've spoken to the right people.
Will update again as this move forward. I do hope I have a job at the end of all this. I also don't hope I'm expected to work overtime for for free / have even more of a workload to try to 'make up' my bad decision.
Has anyone else received a warning ad continued to work well with that employer?0 -
Brief update: still not heard anything from my employer about a date or time for disciplinary. It's been 3 working days so far.
Alongside worrying if I'll actually keep my job at the end of all this, I now have a different worry. May and June were planned to be extremely busy months which needed at least 3 weeks of work / planning before hand, in this month.
Given that it's unlikely for my disciplinary to be nearer the start of this week, if it's for example, Thursday, or Friday, I may get 1 or 2 days to plan and complete the work needed for May. I've got next week booked as annual leave which I really can't cancel as I've booked and paid for several things as it happens to be my OH's birthday mid-week. Therefore, I would get absolutely no time to plan for Mays work, making it virtually impossible to meet the requirements of the role.
What do I do? I understand ill be lucky to keep a job, but knowing I may go back with a week and half back log along with the pressure of not messing up again along with the unreasonable deadlines just makes me want to cry.0 -
In my experience it can take a lot longer than this for a disciplinary to be arranged. In my cousin's case it took many months to happen.Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
Diana Gabaldon, Outlander0 -
just be glad you may have a job at the end of it
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Really Torry?! I'm amazed. I thought I would have at least had a letter with date / time on by now, especially as I'm supposed to get 48 hours notice. Even if the letter came tomorrow it's still going to be a week of suspension with pay for the company. I would have thought they would have wanted it all done with ASAP?
Surely as I've fully admitted it, it should be pretty simple as the investigation can stop?0 -
123helpme123 wrote: »Really Torry?! I'm amazed. I thought I would have at least had a letter with date / time on by now, especially as I'm supposed to get 48 hours notice. Even if the letter came tomorrow it's still going to be a week of suspension with pay for the company. I would have thought they would have wanted it all done with ASAP?
Surely as I've fully admitted it, it should be pretty simple as the investigation can stop?
I agree. They paid him full pay on suspension for at least five months so it cost the company a lot.Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
Diana Gabaldon, Outlander0 -
Ok - I've had my date / time for Friday morning.
I'm dreading it. Although its a relief knowing it will all be over by Friday night, whatever the outcome.
The letter makes what I have done sound much worse than what it actually is. I've just made a stupid mistake, they are labelling it as fraudently altering a document. I know what I've done is bad, but this sounds a whole lot worse without looking at the facts and situation of why I did it. I suppose thats for me to discuss in the meeting Friday.
The investigation has been typed up and laid out by the department director and it, without the exact wording, basically advises the HR person to sack me
I'm prepared for the worst.
Now. If I am extremely lucky, and get 'off' with a written warning, I have annual leave booked for next week (Mon to Thu). Do I turn up on Monday and cancel my annual leave or continue as planned? I'm so confused
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Are you taking someone with you into the meeting?
Remember, it is a meeting to discipline you - not sack you. They have to listen to your side of things, then come to a decision. That may take an hour or a few days. You then have a right to appeal to that decision.
Make sure you try to mitigate your side as best you can, flawless record, one mistake, deep sorrow and shame, self belief that you were doing the best for the company rather than yourself, it's your opportunity to state your side to the best you can. Pull the heart strings, show remorse, cast doubt, fight your own corner.
As for the leave, they may have engineered the meeting to take place as you are not available next week. Is that because they want it done before you leave, or because they know you wont be available next week. You can worry all you like, and rightly so, but why not channel your energy into putting in the best defence you can
As for the wording of the report, of course it will be worded to give maximum impact, but it shouldn't contain a recommendation, only possible outcomes after gaining full facts.
Hope this helps in some way.
Phil.Life - It's only a once in a lifetime experience.0
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