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Higher lending charge?!!

Initially I had £8,000 deposit and borrowed £122,000 for B&W fixed for 5 years at 4.75% this was taken out in March 2003. I now need to move and am selling my house I bought for £129,995 for £143,000 and found a new place I want for £127,000. I was hoping to port across the balance of approx. £118k and using the ‘profit’ if you can call it, that for home improvements. I can port it across but B&W say I have to pay £1,800 higher lending charge does this sound right? Its £1,800 if I want to add it to my mortgage or I can pay £1,000 as soon as I move house. :confused:
Any help would be very much appreciated
Glen
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  • Doglover88
    Doglover88 Posts: 431 Forumite
    anyone? 7 of you have read it....
  • herbiesjp
    herbiesjp Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    It looks like the scheme you are being offered by B&W has a Higher Lender Charge (formerly known as MIG) due to the fact that you are borrowing over 90% of the value of the property i.e. £118k against £127 = 93%

    If you were to borrow less then they may not charge the HLC depending on the scheme. Otheriwse you have 2 options pay up front or add to the loan.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,009 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Or you can choose a lender that doesnt charge MIG.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Yep, no need for MIG, find another lender if you are not subject to early redemption charges.
    If you don't know what you are talking about keep quiet
  • Doglover88
    Doglover88 Posts: 431 Forumite
    Thanks guys (and possibly girls)
    alas Im tied in for another 3 years and to get out will cost me £7,000 so i guess I'll be having to cough up
    Many thanks once again
    Glen
  • johannamse
    johannamse Posts: 498 Forumite
    herbiesjp wrote:
    It looks like the scheme you are being offered by B&W has a Higher Lender Charge (formerly known as MIG) due to the fact that you are borrowing over 90% of the value of the property i.e. £118k against £127 = 93%

    If you were to borrow less then they may not charge the HLC depending on the scheme. Otheriwse you have 2 options pay up front or add to the loan.


    It seems silly to pay - ask them what the limit is - and for the sake of putting a little bit extar down just put off your SOME of your home improvements for a year, until you save up. 1800/1000 is ALOT of paint and carpet. Don't give them the money!!
  • dougk_2
    dougk_2 Posts: 1,403 Forumite
    I would try and find another way of raising a couple of thousand to avoid paying the HLC.

    You basically need to have a £13,000 deposit so you stay under the 90%. Whether this is quite a legitimate way is another question but i have known several "friends" to borrow on a 0% credit card to get the extra deposit needed. Sure you have to pay it back but if its as a short term loan it could be a way.
  • Fairdo_2
    Fairdo_2 Posts: 442 Forumite
    It sounds like your stuffed either way. If you put down some of your "profit" to borrow £114,300 it looks like you would save on the HLC, but it looks like you may have to pay an Early Repayment Charge on the amount you pay off, unless you had a deal that allowed you to make partial overpayments penalty free.

    It would be worth checking with B&W if you would have a charge that way. (ASsuming you could afford yo reduce your borrowing by that much)
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Doglover88
    Doglover88 Posts: 431 Forumite
    dougk wrote:
    I would try and find another way of raising a couple of thousand to avoid paying the HLC.

    You basically need to have a £13,000 deposit so you stay under the 90%. Whether this is quite a legitimate way is another question but i have known several "friends" to borrow on a 0% credit card to get the extra deposit needed. Sure you have to pay it back but if its as a short term loan it could be a way.

    Do all mortgages use the 'over 90%' as i spoke on the phone yesterday to a girl from B&W and she seemed to think it was 85%?
  • dougk_2
    dougk_2 Posts: 1,403 Forumite
    Its down to the individual lender. Most tend to use 90% but others use 85% or 95%.
    However, if you look at B&W website , their 5.19% fixed 5 year mortgages say the HLC is paid by them!
    Time to do some negotiating I feel! That said what rate are they giving you on the new ported product?
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