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FCA: Interest-only mortgage crackdown "gone too far"

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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    there's loads and loads of room for IO as a niche product and there are loads and loads of banks who still offer it.

    Nationwide and HSBC have effectively withdrawn from the market.

    The additional capital required to bolster their balance sheets appears to be the major fact.
  • the_flying_pig
    the_flying_pig Posts: 2,349 Forumite
    ...45,000 posts on here and you still don't grasp the basics of economics.

    Just.... wow.

    :(:(:(:(:(
    FACT.
  • marathonic
    marathonic Posts: 1,789 Forumite
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    Conventional Wisdom:
    Only consider leverage as something secured against your home
    Pay down your mortgage as quickly as possible

    Alternative Wisdom:

    Consider leverage as secured against your entire investment portfolio (even if, on paper, it's only secured against your home)
    Don't pay down your mortgage - instead, increase your investments on a monthly basis and your total borrowings, over time, become less significant given it's percentage in relation to your overall portfolio


    I'm not saying that my alternative is guaranteed to work out better - but, in my opinion, it's highly likely.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Just the opposite.

    We've seen a million FTB-s locked out of buying thanks to mortgage rationing. And instead an extra million houses have been converted to rental.

    Those potential FTB-s are now enriching their landlords.

    So why are you not campaigning to stop I/O mortgages for landlords?

    Why, if you are against this, are you so gleeful that rents have risen?

    You are being very hypocritical. Can't quite believe after all yoru gleeful posts over rents increasing, gleeful posts over BTLS getting preferential mortgage rates etc that you are now pretending to be concerned about the injustice of it all.

    As for your last bit of nonsense...please explain to me how upping lending for mortgages and therefore upping house prices provides employment?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    So why are you not campaigning to stop I/O mortgages for landlords?.

    Eh?

    The solution to artificially restricted credit can never be more artificially restricted credit.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    marathonic wrote: »
    Alternative Wisdom:

    Consider leverage as secured against your entire investment portfolio (even if, on paper, it's only secured against your home)
    Don't pay down your mortgage - instead, increase your investments on a monthly basis and your total borrowings, over time, become less significant given it's percentage in relation to your overall portfolio


    Wisdom? No greed. Wealth without effort.

    Fact of Life. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has to be paid for (if not today then in the future).
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Theres nothing artificial about it.

    Secondly, that wasn't my point. My point was plainly obvious.

    You were suggesting there was an injustice, and that wealth was going to the few, not the many.

    Therefore, why are you not complaining of the injutice of the few getting preferencial deals?

    Simply questions H. No need to dance like a cat on a hot tin roof.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    .please explain to me how upping lending for mortgages and therefore upping house prices provides employment?

    Eh?

    You really don't understand how increasing credit availability, which enables more new houses to be built (employing people), which enables more people to move house (employing people), which means all those people will need to buy things for their new houses (employing people), or have renovations done on them (employing people), or have an extension built (employing people), or how any of this increase in consumer spending, provision of services, and secondary spend from the extra employed people, then stimulates the wider economy?

    Seriously?
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Theres nothing artificial about it.

    Secondly, that wasn't my point. My point was plainly obvious.

    You were suggesting there was an injustice, and that wealth was going to the few, not the many.

    Therefore, why are you not complaining of the injutice of the few getting preferencial deals?

    Because the solution to injustice can never be to create more injustice.

    You don't cure someone with a broken arm, by breaking the other arm.

    Simple answer Dev.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • marathonic
    marathonic Posts: 1,789 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Wisdom? No greed. Wealth without effort.

    Fact of Life. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has to be paid for (if not today then in the future).


    So now you're saying that investing is greed? I'll not be justifying that with more than a two line reply.
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