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It's almost prom time!

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  • Poppy9
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    poet123 wrote: »
    I am not worried (it would be a bit hypocritical really!;)) but I was surprised when I read the letter.

    I would be surprised if the school did include alcohol for under 18s. Generally they have pre drinks before prom in one of the friend group house. I had the girls here and they just had a glass or two of bubbly.

    I had no problem with DD and friends drinking in my house but I do feel responsible for them in that they don't drink to excess.
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  • Spendless
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    edited 15 April 2013 at 2:52PM
    poet123 wrote: »
    It doesn't say non alcoholic, it just says on the letter " meal includes a glass of wine" They are not breaking the law, as you do not have to be 18 to consume alcohol with a meal at a function but I am on the fence about the message it sends.
    Don't you have to be 16 though, which some of them must be under that age if they are summer born. Unless the prom is taking place after the birthday of the youngest one going or the rules are different at a private function to a pub?

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Yourchildshealthandsafety/WorriedAbout/DG_10026210

    From the link

    Under 16s

    Children under 16 can go anywhere in a pub as long as they are supervised by an adult, but cannot have any alcoholic drinks.
    However, some premises may be subject to licensing conditions preventing them from entering, such as pubs which have experienced problems with underage drinking.

    16 or 17 years old

    Young people aged 16 or 17 can drink beer, wine or cider with a meal if it is bought by an adult and they are accompanied by an adult. It is illegal for this age group to drink spirits in pubs even with a meal.

    In Scotland, 16 and 17 year olds can buy beer, wine or cider so long as it's served with a meal and consumed in an area used solely for eating meals.
  • Faith177
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    My year group was the first to have a proper prom.

    My mums friend made my dress and stole cost us about £50 my shoes were £20 for M&S. I had my hair done but that was about it think that was £20.

    8 of us split a limo so it was £20 and that was it.

    Proms have gotten way over the top now with a real keeping up with the Jones effect kicking in
    First Date 08/11/2008, Moved In Together 01/06/2009, Engaged 01/01/10, Wedding Day 27/04/2013, Baby Moshie due 29/06/2019 :T
  • securityguy
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    Spendless wrote: »
    Don't you have to be 16 though, which some of them must be if they are summer born. Unless the prom is taking place after the birthday of the youngest one going or the rules are different at a private function to a pub?

    They are, indeed, different. Licensed premises, which can sell alcohol for cash to people who come through the door, are different to houses, private functions, etc. About the only legislation that affects the latter is that it's illegal to give alcohol to children under five under almost all circumstances.
  • Spendless
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    They are, indeed, different. Licensed premises, which can sell alcohol for cash to people who come through the door, are different to houses, private functions, etc. About the only legislation that affects the latter is that it's illegal to give alcohol to children under five under almost all circumstances.
    I knew a house was different to a pub in over 5 year olds. It mentions that on the link. I just wasn't aware that an alcoholic drink to an under 16 on a licensed premises would be different if it was a function compared to people walking through the door.
  • securityguy
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    edited 15 April 2013 at 11:54AM
    Spendless wrote: »
    I knew a house was different to a pub in over 5 year olds. It mentions that on the link. I just wasn't aware that an alcoholic drink to an under 16 on a licensed premises would be different if it was a function compared to people walking through the door.

    Ah, I didn't pick up from the discussion that it was a private function on licensed premises. That probably does complicate matters if people are under sixteen. I presume that unless the landlord has a deathwish for his license that he's confident it's legal.
  • Spendless
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    Ah, I didn't pick up from the discussion that it was a private function on licensed premises. That probably does complicate matters if people are under sixteen. I presume that unless the landlord has a deathwish for his license that he's confident it's legal.
    It might not be, thinking about it. The ones for yr 11 here are held at hotels or sports clubs or function rooms of pubs etc, so I was just thinking it would be the same, but it might not be, it could be in somewhere like a village hall. It hasn't been mentioned where it is.
  • gregg1
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    poet123 wrote: »
    It doesn't say non alcoholic, it just says on the letter " meal includes a glass of wine" They are not breaking the law, as you do not have to be 18 to consume alcohol with a meal at a function but I am on the fence about the message it sends.

    I would feel the same as you.

    It may well be that they can get hold of alcohol at that age anyway if they really want to but I do feel it is not quite the thing for the school to be offering it to them.
  • securityguy
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    gregg1 wrote: »
    I would feel the same as you.

    It may well be that they can get hold of alcohol at that age anyway if they really want to but I do feel it is not quite the thing for the school to be offering it to them.

    Why not? Isn't presenting the idea that wine is something that is drunk in moderation by adults on appropriate occasions rather a good one?
  • poet123
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    It is being held in a local hotel and the school takes over a function suite entirely for the occasion as there are 200 students.
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