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paying extra to one creditor

one creditor is refusing my dmp offer and is pursuing a ccj and charging order unless I agree to pay them a set amount over three years.
It works out at an extra £85 per month which, if I cut back on a few things I could manage.

I know it isn't fair on other creditors, it feels wrong but I am so scared of a charging order.

Payplan don't seem to be interested in what's happening, in fact all they seem to be interested in is pushing their other products onto me. :mad:

I am interested in others experiences in this situation.
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  • The_Boss
    The_Boss Posts: 5,864 Forumite
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    So they want to increase your dmp monthly payment or is this something else.

    Forget what is fair to the other creditors - you need to focus on this. It could be a negotiating point. What was the original payment, the payment offered by you and the payment they want?
  • michael1983l
    michael1983l Posts: 1,916 Forumite
    If you start paying more pro rata to one creditor, don't be suprised when the rest come to you and ask for more money too. If you are going to have a DMP you have to pay every creditor equally pro rata, if you don't and the creditors find out, they will throw your DMP out.
  • The_Boss
    The_Boss Posts: 5,864 Forumite
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    If you start paying more pro rata to one creditor, don't be suprised when the rest come to you and ask for more money too. If you are going to have a DMP you have to pay every creditor equally pro rata, if you don't and the creditors find out, they will throw your DMP out.

    Are DMPs supposed to pay equally rather than as a proportion of the debt to the respective lender? Seems odd that you'd pay the same to a company you owe (for example) £2k to when you owe another (for example) £7k.
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Pro rata means paying in proportion to the amount owed.
    Free/impartial debt advice: National Debtline | StepChange Debt Charity | Find your local CAB

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  • michael1983l
    michael1983l Posts: 1,916 Forumite
    The_Boss wrote: »
    Are DMPs supposed to pay equally rather than as a proportion of the debt to the respective lender? Seems odd that you'd pay the same to a company you owe (for example) £2k to when you owe another (for example) £7k.
    Paying them pro rata means that you pay a percentage of your available funds in proportion to that of the total percentage of debt when compared to the total outstanding debt.

    i.e.

    If you owe

    Creditor 1 £7,000
    Creditor 2 £2,000
    Creditor 3 £1,000

    And have £100/month available you will pay

    Creditor 1 £70/month
    Creditor 2 £20/month
    Creditor 3 £10/month
  • sickasachip13
    sickasachip13 Posts: 1,190 Forumite
    Hi,
    You pay a proportion of your debt, but this is also dictated by the type of debt - for example, I owed about £900 on a personal loan, this payment was almost as much as was a payment to a £5k CC debt.
    Anyhow, back to the OP's question - I think you would be on very dodgy ground here. Particularly making this a regular arrangement. If you can afford to pay that extra, you could put it into your DMP to be distributed across the debts?
    It may be that this creditor is just trying it on, to see if you really have got more money than you've said....don't waver otherwise they will continue in the same vein.
    Who is the creditor anyway?
    SAAC
  • The_Boss
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    fermi wrote: »
    Pro rata means paying in proportion to the amount owed.

    I know. But we don't know what all of the payments are except the OP was concerned at one lender getting more than the others without referencing whether the pro rata amount is different.
  • bugaluggs78
    bugaluggs78 Posts: 15 Forumite
    edited 18 March 2013 at 3:24PM
    currently paying £35 via dmp, they want £120, so an extra £85 a month paid separately for three years to stop court action.

    If I don't agree then they will go for ccj, charging order and the debt will increase considerably.

    They said they won't go for an order of sale but they could legally do so.

    I am trying to protect my home and family.

    the creditor is black horse and the only one who hasn't accepted, we have been on a dmp for a few years now, they are a nightmare!

    I can't really afford to increase, it will come out of my housekeeping.
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    If the court order you to pay more, then that is what you have to do. In absence of a court order, you pay pro rata under the DMP.
    Free/impartial debt advice: National Debtline | StepChange Debt Charity | Find your local CAB

    IVA & fee charging DMP companies: Profits from misery, motivated ONLY by greed
  • michael1983l
    michael1983l Posts: 1,916 Forumite
    I would say they are trying it on. If you are already paying them via a DMP, then they shouldn't really take you to court as you have made an arrangement to pay and are paying them regularly. The court would likely say that you are being reasonable, unless you lied in your SOA when you set the DMP up.
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