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Release of data to Private Parking Companies

Stroma
Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
Uniform Washer
in Parking tickets, fines & parking
I have never seen this FOI requested before, so some interesting reading.

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/release_of_data_to_private_parki#incoming-358313

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http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/147964/response/358313/attach/2/FOIR3270%20Paul%20Simmons.pdf
When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    So from 01/04/12 until 31/12/12 a total of 1,465,705 requests for keeper details were made. Parking Eye are by far the biggest company asking for details. Over 540k in this period. And in 2011-12 they made again over 540k requests but went to court 5 times, very interesting lol
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • surfboy1
    surfboy1 Posts: 345 Forumite
    Stroma wrote: »
    So from 01/04/12 until 31/12/12 a total of 1,465,705 requests for keeper details were made. Parking Eye are by far the biggest company asking for details. Over 540k in this period. And in 2011-12 they made again over 540k requests but went to court 5 times, very interesting lol
    Its no wonder DVLA are very reluctant to ban Parking Eye from recieving this data.
    Parking Eye make the DVLA a lot of money!;):beer:
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    What's intriguing though, where is Combined Parking Solutions?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    How many are on the BPAAOS? can't see compex development, wilsea services,fmg support,
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Parking Eye went to court in 0.0009 % of tickets issued, so in 99.9991 % of the time they don't go there lol
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    So if the DVLA is going to make money from this then let them charge £25 instead of £2.50. That way some of that money should find its way back into the government coffers and help lower taxes.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • The_Slithy_Tove
    The_Slithy_Tove Posts: 4,108 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Stroma wrote: »
    So from 01/04/12 until 31/12/12 a total of 1,465,705 requests for keeper details were made.
    Considering there areabout 30 million registered vehicles, that's 5% of all vehicles whose details were requested over a 9 month period. Leaving aside the fact there will be dulicats/multiple requests, doesn't that soud a little excessive. I am dead certain the PPCs could not justift due cause for all million and a half requests.
  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    Stroma wrote: »
    What's intriguing though, where is Combined Parking Solutions?
    & NCP & Vinci. The list is very incomplete. It's like there is a page missing.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    I think these are electronic figures are from the ANPR only, because there are quite a few companies go the ticket on car method. Perhaps the correct wording is how many requests for RK details by BPA AOS members in the 5 year period, mentioning specifically all methods of getting these details.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Not all of the PPC's make direct use of the EDI. Many of them make use of the bureau service operated by the likes of Ranger Services, Roxburgh and DR+ and their figures will not therefore show up.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
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