We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Foreign receipts for expenses

Options
Dear Friends,

My wife runs an online business and sells clothing. My wife designs the items in the UK. The fabric and clothes are made abroad (in teh Far East), and are paid for in-country by my wife's sister, then DHLd backed to my wife here in the UK who sells them online. Sister posts us the receipts for the fabric an manufacture which we claim against profit for income tax. We then give Sister the money via direct bank transfer or buy her things when she is over here (for instance an Ipad) to ensure that she is not out of pocket.

1. Can my wife legitimately claim the receipts as her expenses against her profit given the slightly disjointed way in which my wife buys the end products (through sister)?

2. Are there any sensitivities around claiming expenses based on foreign receipts or is a receipt a receipt in the eyes of the tax man?

Many thanks!

BISHOPS

Comments

  • jimmo
    jimmo Posts: 2,287 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    1 Yes of course your wife can claim all the costs of running her business as long as she doesn’t claim the same expenditure twice.

    What I mean by that is if she claims on the basis of the receipts she can’t claim again when she pays her sister (but she can then claim anything she pays her sister over and above the receipts).

    2 A receipt is a receipt. The most frequent stumbling block with foreign receipts is exchange rates. Strictly speaking the cost of each foreign purchase should be converted to sterling at the spot rate for the day of purchase but HMRC will accept use of its own average exchange rates.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/exrate/
  • chrismac1
    chrismac1 Posts: 2,585 Forumite
    Also, note that if you are doing foreign transfers of over £300 or so, you'll get much better conversion rates and lower charges with a foreign currency broker than with a standard bank system transfer.
    Hideous Muddles from Right Charlies
  • jimmo wrote: »
    What I mean by that is if she claims on the basis of the receipts she can’t claim again when she pays her sister (but she can then claim anything she pays her sister over and above the receipts).

    She can't claim anything she pays her sister over and above the receipts - her claim would be limited to the amount of the receipts.

    If my friend buys £200 of goods for my business for me, and I buy my friend a £250 Ipad (for her own personal use, rather than anything to do with the business), I can still only claim the £200 as legitimate business expenses.
    November 2007 £570k 25 years - MF March 2033
    September 2012 £405k 20 years - MF January 2032.
    January 2015 £301k 16 years - MF January 2030
    January 2020 £231k 10 years - MF January 2030
    Mortgage Free Goal: In progress!
    June 2020: Outstanding mortgage £75,211 (£222,414 mortgage offset by £147,203 cashpool)
    August 2020: Outstanding mortgage £59,262 (£134,598 mortgage offset by £75,280 cashpool)
    Sept 2020: Outstanding mortgage £56,682 (£131,760 mortgage offset by £75,022 cashpoool)
    April 2021: Outstanding mortgage £17,278 (£64,646 mortgage offset by £47,313 cashpool)
  • jimmo
    jimmo Posts: 2,287 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    She can't claim anything she pays her sister over and above the receipts.

    Why not? If your friend provides a service to your business it is, I think, perfectly legitimate for your business to pay for the service it has received and claim the appropriate deduction.

    On the other hand, if your business claims the deduction there is a very good chance that your friend will be regarded as having taxable income for what she has been paid by your business (in money or in kind) but her own circumstances may mean that her tax liability is nil.

    I would suggest there is a possible tax saving opportunity there.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    jimmo wrote: »
    ....
    2 A receipt is a receipt. The most frequent stumbling block with foreign receipts is exchange rates. ..

    Another frequent stumbling block with foreign receipts is that they're often not in English.:)
  • jimmo wrote: »
    Why not? If your friend provides a service to your business it is, I think, perfectly legitimate for your business to pay for the service it has received and claim the appropriate deduction.

    On the other hand, if your business claims the deduction there is a very good chance that your friend will be regarded as having taxable income for what she has been paid by your business (in money or in kind) but her own circumstances may mean that her tax liability is nil.

    I would suggest there is a possible tax saving opportunity there.

    Yes, if the sister is providing a service then that can indeed be claimed. I would expect to see an invoice for the service provided by the sister though - a receipt for an Ipad would not really be sufficient.
    November 2007 £570k 25 years - MF March 2033
    September 2012 £405k 20 years - MF January 2032.
    January 2015 £301k 16 years - MF January 2030
    January 2020 £231k 10 years - MF January 2030
    Mortgage Free Goal: In progress!
    June 2020: Outstanding mortgage £75,211 (£222,414 mortgage offset by £147,203 cashpool)
    August 2020: Outstanding mortgage £59,262 (£134,598 mortgage offset by £75,280 cashpool)
    Sept 2020: Outstanding mortgage £56,682 (£131,760 mortgage offset by £75,022 cashpoool)
    April 2021: Outstanding mortgage £17,278 (£64,646 mortgage offset by £47,313 cashpool)
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.9K Life & Family
  • 257.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.