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DVLA - 'Unlicensed Vehicle' letter

hello everyone,

i had this letter from the dvla dropped on me, regarding my car being seen unlicensed on the road. they need me to pay £287 for the first sighting on 1/11/2012 and and another £287 for the second sighting on 22/11/2012. so that nearly £600 and they cannot accept instalments.

now the car was unlicensed and on the 22/11/2013 i was taking the car to a place of repair when i was stopped by police who then pinched my car and it was only released when i paid this impound ransom.

the other sighting on 01/11/2012 refers to a street in my hometown which does not even exist!

i wrote back to the dvla denying the allegation on 01/11/2013 and admitted being stopped by police on 22/11/2013.

the dvla have now reduced the 01/11/2012 settlement to £67 but the 22/11/2012 remains at £287 and they keep having to use threats of court action.

therefore i would like to know if the dvla would actually take court action?

regards!
Eddie.
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  • Quiet_Spark
    Quiet_Spark Posts: 1,093 Forumite
    eddie_rex wrote: »
    now the car was unlicensed and on the 22/11/2013 i was taking the car to a place of repair when i was stopped by police who then pinched my car and it was only released when i paid this impound ransom.
    If you're car was seized on the way to a pre-booked MOT or repair, then that can only mean the driver either did not have insurance or a licence (or both).
    eddie_rex wrote: »
    therefore i would like to know if the dvla would actually take court action?
    Yes they will.
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  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    edited 10 March 2013 at 8:12AM
    Yes, they will. Quite rightly too.

    The Police didn't 'pinch your car', they correctly impounded it for illegal use by you.

    If the car was untaxed, why were you driving it to a place of repair, unless it was for a pre-booked MOT (and even then, there is no reason for it not to be taxed, unless it has been SORNd for a while)? Other methods of transporting motor vehicles are available.

    Your attitude indicates that the fines are well deserved.
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  • marlot
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    I think you'll find little sympathy on here. Most of us pay our road taxes, and are pleased that the system is catching up with people who do not.
  • HappyMJ
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    eddie_rex wrote: »
    hello everyone,

    i had this letter from the dvla dropped on me, regarding my car being seen unlicensed on the road. they need me to pay £287 for the first sighting on 1/11/2012 and and another £287 for the second sighting on 22/11/2012. so that nearly £600 and they cannot accept instalments.

    now the car was unlicensed and on the 22/11/2013 i was taking the car to a place of repair when i was stopped by police who then pinched my car and it was only released when i paid this impound ransom.

    the other sighting on 01/11/2012 refers to a street in my hometown which does not even exist!

    i wrote back to the dvla denying the allegation on 01/11/2013 and admitted being stopped by police on 22/11/2013.

    the dvla have now reduced the 01/11/2012 settlement to £67 but the 22/11/2012 remains at £287 and they keep having to use threats of court action.

    therefore i would like to know if the dvla would actually take court action?

    regards!
    Eddie.
    They don't always take court action. I've never had them take court action but it's a risk you have to weigh up yourself. At the moment it's just a penalty and not recorded anywhere except DVLA's computers. You could ignore it and you'll get a few more letters then the letters eventually stop....however, there is a risk they could take you to court.

    It isn't a fine...only after a court case will a court impose a fine.
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  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    marlot wrote: »
    I think you'll find little sympathy on here. Most of us pay our road taxes, and are pleased that the system is catching up with people who do not.

    Well I for one think the system is flawed and unfair, if I lapse on my VED for medical reasons or any other legitimate mistake, they'd jump down my throat.
    If I had 15 fake aliases, registered the car to a fake address 200 miles away (along with the other 50 cars in my officially non-existent taxi business), they'd crap themselves and look the other way.

    The system goes after the legitimate tax payer and leaves the real problem alone.

    As a result, certain minorities (Mostly eastern European and middle eastern) are driving around in dangerous vehicles with false licences, no VED and no car insurance.

    The law should apply fairly and equally to all within UK borders, or not at all.
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  • SteveJW
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    Strider590 wrote: »
    As a result, certain minorities (Mostly eastern European and middle eastern) are driving around in dangerous vehicles with false licences, no VED and no car insurance.

    The law should apply fairly and equally to all within UK borders, or not at all.

    Used to be a car auction about a mile out of town, it was well known for the minorities (sic) purchasing cars with no Tax or MOT and driving them away from the auction, doubt if they had valid driving licences or insurance. I know for a fact that more than one motor trader had reported this to the police and they were not interested

    Steve
  • Strider590 wrote: »
    The system goes after the legitimate tax payer and leaves the real problem alone.

    But as the OP has admitted that their car did not have valid VED then they are not legitimate tax payers in this instance.
    Their vehicle was untaxed for at least 3 weeks, so it wasn't just a simple memory lapse where they forgot about it for a day or two.

    If you're car was seized on the way to a pre-booked MOT or repair, then that can only mean the driver either did not have insurance or a licence (or both).
    You can only drive to a pre-booked MOT appointment, not a pre-booked repair.
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    edited 10 March 2013 at 2:23PM
    But as the OP has admitted that their car did not have valid VED then they are not legitimate tax payers in this instance.
    Their vehicle was untaxed for at least 3 weeks, so it wasn't just a simple memory lapse where they forgot about it for a day or two.



    You can only drive to a pre-booked MOT appointment, not a pre-booked repair.

    I'm not defending the OP and I'm not disputing the law, I'm saying that law should be applied evenly to all and until it is, it's complete joke.
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  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,755 Forumite
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    They didnt impound it for no tax though did they?

    No insurance?

    I thought no tax was just a fine as your getting now, Not impounding the car.

    Unless the DVLA towed it?
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  • vaio
    vaio Posts: 12,287 Forumite
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    ......You can only drive to a pre-booked MOT appointment, not a pre-booked repair.

    nah, or at least not according to 6(2)(a)(i) and (iii) of http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...ulation/6/made
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