Started a job a month ago, already want to leave. Help!

warden1989

Hello! Long rant ahead, sorry.

I graduated last year and this is my first job since then. It's a small family run business which I thought was ideal for me. I love some aspects of the job but...

Problems

- The job is cash in hand at the end of every day. While I've no problem with the method of payment, I'm not being paid minimum wage. I'm also fairly sure that the boss is doing it as a way to not pay NI and tax. I'm not the only one being paid this way

- There is no paper contract, just verbal. This worries me a lot.

- Two of us were hired, and we've been given little to no training. We've often been left on our own to fend for ourselves. When we've made mistakes, as new employees do, we've been made to feel like we just should've known better. The boss is very passive-aggressive and doesn't seem to appreciate or understand that what is second-nature to him is new to us. It almost feels like he didn't want to hire us at all but was forced to.

The business is also not doing tremendously well at the minute and he loudly complains in front of us about how our wages will deduct from the takings. This is embarrassing and makes me feel guilty for something that isn't my fault. If he wanted a volunteer, he should have advertised for one.

I realise this is stuff I should have figured out before accepting but I'm relatively new to employment and didn't want to rock the boat or be seen as "difficult".

Just need a bit of advice on what to do. Thanks!

Takeaway_Addict

may as well stick it out until they stop paying and start looking for another job.

warwicktiger

Get out as soon as you can, hopefully after finding a proper job.

No contract, training, payslips and below NMW ??

who do you think HMRC will want to speak to about tax?, they'll find out sooner or later!

Takeaway_Addict

warwicktiger wrote: »

Get out as soon as you can, hopefully after finding a proper job.

No contract, training, payslips and below NMW ??

who do you think HMRC will want to speak to about tax?, they'll find out sooner or later!

The OP said not being paid NMW, I took this as paying more but you are most likely correct

warden1989

Ah, no, sorry for the confusion. I'm being paid less than minimum wage. About £5 short of what I should be getting. Not a great deal but it adds up. No contract, no discussion of what the terms of employment were and no payslips. I don't even know if I'm on the books as an employee.

I am looking for different work, believe me. But it's not the easiest time for it.

Takeaway_Addict

warden1989 wrote: »

Ah, no, sorry for the confusion. I'm being paid less than minimum wage. About £5 short of what I should be getting. Not a great deal but it adds up. No contract, no discussion of what the terms of employment were and no payslips. I don't even know if I'm on the books as an employee.

I am looking for different work, believe me. But it's not the easiest time for it.

Then I would keep my head down, accept that this IS going to go belly up some time in the future, take teh money you can and keep hunting for a job.

Legally you can do a few things but lets be real, as soon as you point out legal wrong doings you put your head above the para-fit and risk losing the job altogether.

Personally, I would dob them in once you got another job

m-bee

warden1989 wrote: »

Ah, no, sorry for the confusion. I'm being paid less than minimum wage. About £5 short of what I should be getting. Not a great deal but it adds up. No contract, no discussion of what the terms of employment were and no payslips. I don't even know if I'm on the books as an employee.

I am looking for different work, believe me. But it's not the easiest time for it.

£5 short???
So you are getting paid 1 pound something?
Even apprentices are entitled to more than that. What you have is not a legal job and you should report them

patman99

Tell him you need payslips in order to be able to claim WTC. When/if he comes out with a load of excuses about not giving you one, then I'd get on the phone and grass the tight git up to HMRC. Also speak to the department who deal with making sure firms don't pay less than NMW.

amcg100

Sounds to me that those who are employing you are illegals. You say you have graduated so clearly you are not stupid, - report these idiots to HMRC and to JSP,

kingfisherblue

m-bee wrote: »

£5 short???
So you are getting paid 1 pound something?
Even apprentices are entitled to more than that. What you have is not a legal job and you should report them

I took it to mean about £5 per payday short. I may be wrong though.

Slinky

I doubt you're on the books legally. Nobody doing it legally pays people daily. From 6th April every time somebody is paid the business has to report it to HMRC. Can you see that happening with your employer?

Keep hunting for something else.