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Poundland ruling shows Govmt work scheme to be nothing but work for nothing!

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  • StevieJ
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    prowla wrote: »
    If there is a job then it should be a paid job.
    There is a benefit to people gaining work experience and skills, but that should not simply be disguised cheap labour.
    Back to work groups recommend working in charitable organizations, for instance.
    So there is a benefit to people who are out of work taking placements.
    If done properly!

    Do you mean something possibly like Oxam or even a local service like a museum?
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  • StevieJ
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Seems somewhat strange the evident dislike of private enterprise

    I rather like the goods and services and employment they provide

    Then again I guess you get paid :)
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  • My niece was working in a soft play place (she's 18 and had completed a college course), but she and all the other young girls got fired last week. She was very good at her job and so were the other girls and there was no discipline problems.

    They have been replaced by school drop outs, as part of some placement scheme with the school. These girls are not paid, so the owner is getting free employees and my niece is now having to claim JSA.

    She is a hard worker and only worked part time and refused to sign on, but she has been replaced for free. She hates not working and has just decided to go back to college, to work on her qualifications.

    This is now a country of little employment rights.
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  • CLAPTON
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Then again I guess you get paid :)


    I don't really understand your comment

    my point is
    - people are content to pay JSA to people doing nothing
    - are content to pay people JSA to work for charities/state enterprises
    - but shock and horror to pay people JSA to work for a private company
  • Thrugelmir
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    but she and all the other young girls got fired last week.

    This is now a country of little employment rights.

    Not true, There's plenty. Unfair dismissal is one.

    Find yourselves a good employment solicitor. They'll run rings round incompetent employers like these.
  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Not true, There's plenty. Unfair dismissal is one.

    Find yourselves a good employment solicitor. They'll run rings round incompetent employers like these.

    Don't you need two years employment before you get those rights?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • CLAPTON
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    Don't you need two years employment before you get those rights?


    not any more
  • Thrugelmir
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    Don't you need two years employment before you get those rights?

    Basic right of all employees.
    It is automatically unfair for an employer to dismiss an employee, regardless of length of service,

    Due process must be followed.
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    I don't really understand your comment

    my point is
    - people are content to pay JSA to people doing nothing
    - are content to pay people JSA to work for charities/state enterprises
    - but shock and horror to pay people JSA to work for a private company

    Personally I would prefer charitable/local work to benefit the community ahead of private companies.

    By all means allow those companies to take the worker on a trial basis but it should be paid at the going rate.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Generali
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Do you mean something possibly like Oxam or even a local service like a museum?

    The woman concerned wasn't 'working' in museum as that implies some sort of organised system. She was turning up on an ad hoc basis and helping out.

    Whilst that's admirable in itself, that's not something that the taxpayer should be funding.
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