Is it financially worth it to get married?

POPPYOSCAR

distinctd wrote: »

I'm not really here to discuss my opinions as they're not likely to be compatible with most people's and I don't want to upset people, so considering this is just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own...

Old fashioned, ritualistic, sexist, discriminatory and the most relevant to the modern version of it - materialistic and controlling, I do not need any church or any state to approve my relationship status, I am a free and independent human being nor do I need to express my private relationship to others with material items, expensive events etc.

I agree with you.

I take it that everyone in the future will be able to have a civil partnership or else they will do away with them?

POPPYOSCAR

trinity_enigma wrote: »

Just out of interest do you not think its morally wrong to go against your morals purely for financial gain?

That is honestly not meant in a horrible way I'm actually just intrigued.

I do not think is going against your morals in order to secure the financial future of the person/people you love.


Unfortunately it is something that many people have to do or the one left behind may have to sell up and lose their home.

Some would say it would be morally wrong to leave them in that position.

trinity_enigma

In case of death? In which case are you looking for further protection than a will would give you?

distinctd

trinity_enigma wrote: »

Just out of interest do you not think its morally wrong to go against your morals purely for financial gain?

That is honestly not meant in a horrible way I'm actually just intrigued.

I don't find it horrible, I just have no interest in arguing with people on the internet, it's pointless but I don't mind genuine questions.

No, because it doesn't hurt others. In our situation, it's not any of the things that I mentioned because we don't actually take it seriously, we're just doing what the system requires of us, but to us, it's just saying a few words, it's just words, means nothing. Our love isn't determined by saying a few words that someone that thinks they're better than us for having a fancy job title wants us to say. Love is stronger than that and always will be.

Also, by not conforming to the silly clothing and all of the other rubbish that goes along with a wedding, we're not really conforming to it. We're not contributing to companies that produce expensive things for weddings, so, although we'd be in a way, supporting the idea of marriage, we're not promoting the whole material aspect of it which these days is a big part of the problem. It also makes no sense logically, most people that are getting married are also looking to buy a house, yet throw away £10k on a wedding.

If I saw a special offer for mcdonalds or something, I wouldn't take advantage of it for financial gain, even if they were giving it to me for free, because companies like that harm others and that would make it wrong of me to support them. You couldn't pay me to eat mcdonalds.

My other reason for being against it is more of a personal one, I'm not egotistical, I don't want to be the centre of an event like that, I don't want all of that attention and people watching me, that comes into moral issues too because I think it's a general problem that so many people want to boost their ego and out-do everyone all the time, no matter what the consequences to other people, the planet etc.

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

I agree with you.

I take it that everyone in the future will be able to have a civil partnership or else they will do away with them?

Do away with it, if people want to define themselves as "married" then they can, but there doesn't need to be any kind of ceremony or documentation for that, it's just what people want to identify as. As for benefits to it, get rid of them, a person's relationship status is irrelevant. Having said that, we currently have to live under this system and if it means paying a bit of money and pretending to grovel to the government for 10 minutes to get some benefits that others get, I'll do it.

Similar to how we have to buy property, my opinions are that all of that is wrong but we're forced to live under this system, we can do the minimum required to have what we need (which in my case, is nowhere near what others think they need) and live a good life while slowly doing what little we can to bring down the system, not being consumers etc.

kitschkitty

You can get a solicitor to write up all the documents you need that would cover the things being married does. So wills, next of kin agreements (or whatever the proper name for them is) any other financial & personal agreements/wishes.

The only potential differences are the costs, the possible need to update things in future (if done through a solicitor) and the ease of doing it all.

distinctd

kitschkitty wrote: »

You can get a solicitor to write up all the documents you need that would cover the things being married does. So wills, next of kin agreements (or whatever the proper name for them is) any other financial & personal agreements/wishes.

The only potential differences are the costs, the possible need to update things in future (if done through a solicitor) and the ease of doing it all.

It's seeming like it will be cheaper to get married though? I haven't had any experience with solicitors but I think it quickly gets expensive?

faithless

A lot of solicitors offer an initial short consultation free - you say what you want to achieve, and they can basically quote for what they'd need to do to achieve that. I'd speak to a local firm of solicitors. Also would be worth asking the cost of revoking the arrangements should your circumstances change, eg you split up, c/f the costs of getting out of marriage, ie divorce.