Free/100% grant for external wall insulation

slacky555

As the title says has anyone any experience recently of any company's offering free external wall insulation.

I have made contact and had visits from 2 companies that were offering this but since both have pulled out due to lack of funding. Even when they said funding had already been put in place from the cert and cesp programmes. Now the green deal in here/on its way all this funding has gone.

Now I have to wait for ECO part of the green deal to become available and hopefully that will include the free external insulation.

I have seen many companies offer this in the past 50% funded but that was if you had central heating fueled by coal or electric.

My situation is mains gas heating
But my qualifying things before with the 2 companies I had approached, low income of less than £16k and child under 5 in the household.

It is really fustrating as I was so close to getting this installed just before Xmas. And I had surveyors come out to my property and everything. Then the funding was cut.

Any help would be great.

Ken68

Hi slacky..I was offered a part grant some years ago, and pulled out because the insulation was only 40mm thick and the payback would have taken many years.
And I would have lost all the detailing on the house. Doubt my neighbours would have approved.

Martyn1981

There is a thread here chatting about EWI and the green deal. It caught my eye because there are some great before and after pics (dec 14th posting). In the right situation, I suspect the neighbours will be pretty jealous.

Total guess, but looks in the region of 100mm, and not cheap.

http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18937.0.html

Mart.

slacky555

Cheers for that had a good read, but nothing seems straight forward with this at the moment.

jamesingram

Not aware of any EWI project fully funded by CERT etc. unless social housing . As you said GD and ECO take over from CERT , the ECO section being for social housing ( maybe low income also , not sure)

I imagine EWI being a bit chunk of ECO and GD ( as are the suppliers) as these are the house that haven't been covered by CERTs (loft and cavity being much easier to install)
I imagine things will become clearer over the next 6 month to a years
if where lucky clarity may appear before next winter.

re. EWI ,seen prices from £65-150+ m2 about , personnally I be charging around <£100m2 if I do it.
i think its good stuff ,though it does have potential negative.

I've done several refurb jobs with EWI and also several new extensions ( 150mm sinlge block then 200m EPS and light weight render ) this method give you a wall using less materials/footings and performing better than current regs. for a similar price to current cavity construction.
Longterm it'll never last as long as a brick finish, though no reason if well maintained it should last 50+ years .
On main land Europe , fire risk of EPS in EWI has been brought up , epsecially in the case of flats and high rise. Main problem seems to be fire spread is faster than it should be, though correct design, selection of materials and installation should sort this out.

slacky555

Thanks, it's not social housing. I am a homeowner. The price the companies were quoting are around £50sqm and that was 80mm upwards depending on what would meet the regs. so price seem to have come down and could be covered by grants. It would have cost £4k to do my property, but as said the cesp/cert funding has now ended. So just hoping for something along the same lines as that. I know the energy companies have targets to meet to reduce co2 and money laid out against reduction in co2 loft and cavity are by far the best for them. But there can't be that much they can go at in the next 5 years. So hopefully this is the next best thing. And with prices coming down it will look more attractive.

Ken68

Todays newsletter , Slacky, quite a bit about Exterior Wall Insulation, including info on £650 cashback .

And this organisation dealt with my original application for EWI.
http://www.rsnonline.org.uk/fuel-poverty/fuel-poverty-insulating-solid-wall-homes

Ken68

I like your comment Jmes...correct design, selection of materials and installation should sort this out.
Like, the whole project needs a re=think.

jamesingram

Ken68 wrote: »

I like your comment Jmes...correct design, selection of materials and installation should sort this out.
Like, the whole project needs a re=think.

the suggested problem is a cavity/void behind or infront of the insulation layer acting like a chimney, so a fire in one flat , jumps fire breaks and spreads external , rapidly , the fire brigade cant deal with it ,as the external covering prevents access. Removal of any void that will act like chimneys and correct fire break detailing
inbetween levels, I presume is a possible solution.
But yes , perhaps the anwser is not to use flammable materials on highrise and select rockwool, phenolic etc. ??