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Baby Boomers: Generation Theft?
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Look at the opinions of 16-17 year olds on civil partnerships in the years prior to them being brought into law against the views of those over 60. Were we wrong to bring them in (thus making 16-17 year olds wrong) or were we right to (thus making them right and the elderly as a group wrong).
Take a look at the level of support for both Afghanistan (both groups in favour but the young by less) and Iraq (young not in favour). Were the elderly right and the young wrong again?
Late teens also treat global warming, environmental impact and recycling as being more important than the elderly as well. Changes to give women equal rights? The young led the way yet again. But I suppose these are yet more examples of the arrogance of youth; wiser older heads should have prevailed so that we could completely stuff the environment and keep women in their place!
We haven't allowed voting by 16-17 year olds thus far and our economy is FUBAR so why be confident that the wisdom of age is benefiting our political process.
You make the assumption that all or the majority of older generation are against those policies. They are not.
I am not so old but In my circle of acquaintances none were in avour of Iraq 2 or Afghanistan. A tragic loss of life and a waste of money we could ill afford with no proven links to our country.
Haven't met anyone against civil partnerships, apart from a now deceased relative.
Haven't met anyone fighting or resisting green initiatives, some are a bit barmy, but can't say I've been aware of many naysayers.
What I have seen is the exuberance of youth and the fact that they live in the here and now, with little experience of life, do not plan and think forward. Often making quick decisions that often lead to consequences, that had they have asked, what if ?or asked people with experience for their thoughts, wouldn't have happened. The young are impervious to risk they are infallible in their eyes.
Why were the young so eager to rush off to war? Why do children have accidents? Why do more young men and to a lesser extent have car/bike accidents?
I don't dispute there are a few that take more care, research, think and explore before jumping. There are some that a quick to assimilate and make good snap decisions evaluating risk and reward.
I also don't dispute that there is a tipping point when crustys stop making sound decisions too. I also don't dispute that many mature adults are incapable of making sound rational judgements.
I doubt giving 16/17 years the old would have any bearing on the policies enacted by parliament.
Our economy may be FURBAR'd but it hasn't just got there because it has been mishandled by a few old people of late. It has taken decades to screw it up with all sorts of fingers in the pie."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
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ruggedtoast wrote: »
Thirdly you can forego your winter fuel payments if you dont need them.
Fourthly you can forego your state pension if you dont need that.
benefits they dont need, and pensions they dont need, a
How would you decide what an individual needs?
What would The Rugged think was necessary?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »I'm not paying in for my state pension. No one is. Your NI contributions pay for current claimants.
As I said I highly doubt there will be a state pension, certainly not a non means tested one, when I retire. I am not expecting the government will bail me out of the 20 odd years when I won't be working so I am making my own provisions.
You're paying into the NI system and that NI taxation is invested into the UK. How is this any different to paying into a personal pension that is then invested into company shares? The government is not bailing you out, you're receiving a return on your investment. Will you refuse yours?
Out of interest, and to prove that you are indeed making your own provisions and not just saying that, how much money do you have in your pension pot right now and how many years do you have to go until you retire?
I'm 42 and have £170k invested so far. That's enough to pay an annual pension of about £8k, which is £153 per week and so slightly over what I'd receive from my state pension.0 -
Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »It's FUBAR'd, grizzly.
Must have got confused.:doh:
£60 for this one and £95 for one in pink the world has gone mad."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0
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