CSA Are they committing fraud??

bazbro90

I have just had a thoughts about CSA and the system that they use to calculate monies taken for the person who has to pay and would like your feedback.
If im wrong with my figures etc please let me know.

If you earn over £200 net per week you are to pay 15% for one child. This equates to £30 per week.

So does this mean that the CSA as saying that one child requires £30 upkeep per week?

So if you earn a hypothetical £1000 net per week that you will be liable to pay £150 per week.

If it costs £30 to upkeep the child and youve paid £150, what happens to the other £120???

you cant argue that some cases cost more to upkeep as this is the standard amount outlined by CSA.

am I missing something or is this a massive loophole?

If you tried that youd be had up for fraud!!!!

thoughts please?

withabix

You are missing something.

shoe*diva79

Your missing something. The assessment is a % so the child can continue living the standard (or thereabouts) that it previously lived whilst the parents were together.

Do you even know how much children cost to raise? If everything was added in to the extra rent for their bedroom, heat, water, birthday present, christmas, school uniform, after school clubs, days out, present for other kids parties they have been invited to, clothes, shoes, haircuts, holidays.... I can tell you now, £30 a week just doesn't cut it!

Even if the PWC was to add £30 to that per week thats only £3120 per year.

shoe*diva79

Oh, also, childcare as well. I start work monday and full time nursery for my youngest is £925 per month. Tx credits will pay £528 of that so i am left to find £396. As a guide my LO father gives me £200 a month. So as you can see, not even enough for me to cover nursery plus buy her the things she needs!

kevin137

I understand your logic...

What would it cost you to have a property with 3 bedrooms instead of say 2... And feed an extra person, and clothe an extra person etc etc...

It is done this way to be seen to be fair. And as already pointed out should reflect the standard of living according to the household income before the split...

This is not always the case though, but if you want to be argumentative, you could be paying the hypothetical £150 a week and this would probably only just cover the bills... Kids are more expensive than the average CSA bill that is for sure...

wayne0

shoe*diva79 wrote: »

Your missing something. The assessment is a % so the child can continue living the standard (or thereabouts) that it previously lived whilst the parents were together.
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if this is the case... what about the fact that many NRP's are from where births happen AFTER they split...

And what about the standard of lives of the children in second families....

PreludeForTimeFeelers

wayne0 wrote: »

And what about the standard of lives of the children in second families....

That's why the NRP gets a reduction based on the number of children in his/her household.

shoe*diva79

wayne0 wrote: »

if this is the case... what about the fact that many NRP's are from where births happen AFTER they split...

And what about the standard of lives of the children in second families....

What prelude says. The nrp gets a reduction before CM is worked out. If the NRP still feels the finacial side of supporting their children is a struggle then maybe they need to consider if they an afford more children....

bazbro90

Hey, it wasn`t me that set the CSA rate.

meer53

My thoughts ?

You don't get it do you ?

If you can keep a child for £30 per week, i'd like you to tell me how. My daughters school meals are £10 per week. Bus fares another £10, that leaves £10 for food, clothes, and everything else. Her last pair of school shoes were £40. And i don't get anything from my ex at the moment.

The sad thing is that some people don't receive anywhere near £30 a week for their children from the NRP. It's incredibly difficult. The fair system is as it is now, a percentage of earnings.

his_wife

my ten pence worth,,,, my ex pays 19 a wk , for one child,,, when he was paying for all four, i got 10 a wk,,,,he accused me of making him bankrupt!!!!

My husband pays in excess of 500 a month for a 19 yr old child,,, now i know 19 a wk, doesnt cover much at all, however, i dont think it costs 150 a wk for a 19 yr old,especially topped up with ctc, wtc and child benefits.

I think the whole government needs a rethink to the system.