Suspect Pro Rata calculation?

Pete111

hartski wrote: »

Thanks Pete... I'm at that level of thinking as well. The payroll team dont even have the courtesy to talk or explain to me directly. They are passing messages through someone else... pretty disgusted with the whole affair really.

Will probably stick a grievance in, agree to claw back over a number of months and suggest they get their house in order. Barely even had an apology...

Think carefully before you do this and certainly try other avenues first..

You have been there a matter of weeks by the sounds of it. The company will likely feel that their methodology is sound and may well not change a single thing even if you raise a greivance. Just because I don't personally think their calculation is sensible does not necessarily mean that it would ultimately be deemed incorrect by the only arbiter here - an employment tribunal. (case law on this anyone?)

All you will have achieved in that instance is being marked as a potential problem...and all during your probation period...

hartski

Grievance is the wrong word, but I will certainly be making a complaint, but about the handling of it, not the calculation. Not looking to take this legal over who's right and wrong when it comes to how much I've been paid. I'll take that on the chin ... eventually

Someone has been incompetent from the start, and not done their role correctly. I think I have a right to lodge a complaint that someone has not performed their duties correctly regardless of how long I've worked here.

Like I say, their handling of this really has been "I couldnt give two hoots..." and it certainly hasnt helped me out for the next few weeks.

Not a great welcome to the company.

notanewuser

hartski wrote: »

Grievance is the wrong word, but I will certainly be making a complaint, but about the handling of it, not the calculation. Not looking to take this legal over who's right and wrong when it comes to how much I've been paid. I'll take that on the chin ... eventually

Someone has been incompetent from the start, and not done their role correctly. I think I have a right to lodge a complaint that someone has not performed their duties correctly regardless of how long I've worked here.

Like I say, their handling of this really has been "I couldnt give two hoots..." and it certainly hasnt helped me out for the next few weeks.

Not a great welcome to the company.

You're perfectly entitled to complain.

And they are perfectly entitled to end your employment for no reason whatsoever. *

*except for discriminatory reasons.

Mudd14

getmore4less wrote: »

It makes a big difference if you use all the days in the month(7day weeks) but full time is only a 5 day week

take a £20k a year person working all of jan.

20/12 is £1666.67
daily is 53.76.
work 23days so only get paid £1236.56

£430.11 short.

The trick with any algorithm is make sure it works for full timers as well as part timers.

If full timers don't get the same pay the algorithm is wrong.

But if they are working all of Jan you wouldn't multiply by 23 you would multiply back by 31? If you are counting 365 days a year then you count every day of that month. So it would 1666.67.

theoretica

I think my work does the same. It is not mathematically perfect, but that is the nature of an annual, rather than hourly, salary and it can work out in either the worker's or employer's favour.

If you work Monday-Friday full time and start the job on Monday 3rd Feb you would only be paid 26/28 of a full monthly salary for working all 20 working days. However, if your last day in work was Monday 3rd Feb you would be paid 3/28 of a month for only one of the 20 working days.

getmore4less

Mudd14 wrote: »

But if they are working all of Jan you wouldn't multiply by 23 you would multiply back by 31? If you are counting 365 days a year then you count every day of that month. So it would 1666.67.

so for a full time mon-fri worker

That would include Sat and Sun for the full time workers but part time workers you would only include the days they work.

if you only include the days they work for part timers you should only include the days they work for full timers.

good chance it is against the part time regulations.

clairec79

No because a part-time worker is counted as 0.whatever of a full timer - so someone working 30 hours a week would have the final figure multiplied by 0.8 (so they wouldn't say they only do 8 days in a fortnight, they say they'd do 0.8 of 14 (11.2days)