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Cant get my son a loan or reasonable car insurance!

Hazzer
Hazzer Posts: 6 Forumite
Hi Martin and thanks for a great site. I have used your site before but this is the first forum post so please bear with me! My son is 18 passed his test a few weeks ago got a car and now its a nightmare getting insurance! He is an engineering apprentice through a Nuclear partnership, has been banking with Lloyds TSB since he was quite young but they wont give him a £2,000 loan over 12 months to pay his insurance outright as they say he needs to be with them as an adult for a period until they decide if he can have one or not?! We have had insurance quotes of 2 up to 4 thousand pounds with a lot added on for direct debit and it is frankly I feel daylight robbery! I support fully the need to eradicate death and injury on the roads but this is not, I feelsolely all young people, and that there are just as many other age groups who drive badly?! It seems wrong to punish all young people for other peoples crimes and only serves to make it hard for young people to get started on the no claims pathway. Tescos were the cheapest quote but its still £200.00 a month. Any suggestions Martin please? Many thanks Harry Brannigan.:money:
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  • CH27
    CH27 Posts: 5,531 Forumite
    Have you looked at the insurers who fit a box to the car to monitor driving?
    If he drives well the insurance reduces.
    Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud.
  • Try http://www.insurethebox.com/ my colleague at work has similar issues with her son and used this type of insurance with driving monitoring, which reduced his costs
  • Hazzer
    Hazzer Posts: 6 Forumite
    Hi CH27 yes and Tescos are the cheapest! Thanks for trying though. Kind Regards Hazzer.:beer:
  • Hazzer
    Hazzer Posts: 6 Forumite
    Thanks Sparklefrog. Kind Regards Hazzer.:beer:
  • Buzby
    Buzby Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    If you have a motor policy, add him as a named driver to yours, as this will help him get a foot in the door. This won't help him insure his car (when he gets it) and I'm not suggesting you 'front' for him, simply ease the path as your insurer may be happy to treat his use of yours as counting to his NCD.
  • 19lottie82
    19lottie82 Posts: 6,033 Forumite
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    i'm afraid this is the norm for young drivers these days.

    is it really so much more expensive to pay off the insurance in installments? im pretty sure the apr on this would be cheaper than a 2k loan over 12 months. (I'd guess about 20-30% apr, which would equal £200-300)
  • lippy1923
    lippy1923 Posts: 1,374 Forumite
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    I sympathise with your sons situation. It sucks!
    Could he try getting a 0% credit card and pay using that? There could be an additional fee (£5) or something small, but its still cheaper than paying monthly. And it will help build him a credit score at the same time :)
    If hes not accepted though, perhaps you could get one in your name and add him as an additional card holder.
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  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    The reasons banks / insurance dont like them is hes likely to smash the car up or default. Boys whern turn 18 with a license feel untouchable when driving.
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,641 Forumite
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    chanz4 wrote: »
    The reasons banks / insurance dont like them is hes likely to smash the car up or default. Boys whern turn 18 with a license feel untouchable when driving.

    True, they like to show off which can end up very nasty.
  • cajef
    cajef Posts: 6,283 Forumite
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    edited 22 January 2013 at 6:20PM
    Hazzer wrote: »
    I feelsolely all young people, and that there are just as many other age groups who drive badly?! It seems wrong to punish all young people for other peoples crimes

    So the fact that young drivers under 21 are twice as likely to have an accident in the first few years after passing their test has nothing to do with it.

    Insurance is based on risk and that is why it is far more expensive for young drivers to get insurance than older people, they are a bigger risk.
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