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HMRC - 2012 Transactions at 5 year high

House sales in the UK rose by 5% last year, according to figures from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC).

The number of completed sales was 932,000, up from 885,000 the previous year, and the highest since 2007.
The HMRC figures are part of a growing body of evidence that the market is picking up in terms of sales, if not prices

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21082110

More people moving is a good indicator of growing confidence in the economy.

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  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21082110

    More people moving is a good indicator of growing confidence in the economy.

    Yep most of the signs are pointing to 2013 being the busiest year for quite a few.
  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    Yep most of the signs are pointing to 2013 being the busiest year for quite a few.

    Certainly looks like that around my way
  • if the number of sales rose but in general not prices then thats far from good news
    usually increased demand = increasing prices
  • marathonic
    marathonic Posts: 1,789 Forumite
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    woodbine wrote: »
    if the number of sales rose but in general not prices then thats far from good news
    usually increased demand = increasing prices

    Another way to look at it is a large number of sales, even without rising prices, mean that an increasing number of home movers are meeting banks current, restricted, affordability criteria and are not in negative equity.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    woodbine wrote: »
    if the number of sales rose but in general not prices then thats far from good news
    usually increased demand = increasing prices


    no,
    price is determined by SUPPLY and demand

    the demand for flat screen TVs has clearly increased (CRTs are dead now), would you celebrate if the price of flat screen TV increased?
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Regional breakdown would be interesting.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Regional breakdown would be interesting.

    There's actually not much data to go with this..

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/statistics/transactions/val-40000-or-above.pdf

    Looks like a step change upwards from 2011.
  • woodbine wrote: »
    if the number of sales rose but in general not prices

    According to Land Registry, prices are up 1.4% in the last 12 months.

    According to Halifax they're up 2.4%.

    According to the ONS they're up 2.1%.

    And according to Acadametrics they're up 3.2%.

    NW is still down 1%, but hey, can't complain.

    And Scottish house prices are up 6.7% on the quarter and 5.7% year on year according to Halifax
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    There's actually not much data to go with this..

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/statistics/transactions/val-40000-or-above.pdf

    Looks like a step change upwards from 2011.

    Second half of the year was only up 7,000 on same period of 2011.

    So first half of 2013 will be important.

    Lst year saw end of stamp duty holiday as well.
  • nollag2006 wrote: »
    Certainly looks like that around my way
    Maybe you could whack your rents up by another 10% to celebrate? What with all the other rent hikes I doubt if your tenants would even notice.
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