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Cameron will NOT consider rent controls.

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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    So in most areas the market should still be influenced by what non-HB tenants are able to pay.
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  • LydiaJ wrote: »
    So in most areas the market should still be influenced by what non-HB tenants are able to pay.

    Yes thats right.

    As you'll know housing benefits were cut sometime ago, but rents have risen since then regardless.

    Not surprising when 76% of private renters do not rely on housing benefits.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Yes thats right.

    As you'll know housing benefits were cut sometime ago, but rents have risen since then regardless.

    Not surprising when 76% of private renters do not rely on housing benefits.

    I wonder what % of this 76% are in receipt of other benefits though, child tax credits and the kind that can still allow them to afford the current rent, we haven't seen the effect of the child benefits reductions yet

    Is it in anyway possible that Cameron doesn't want rent controls as he knows that the proposed cuts across the board may in effect bring natural rebalance?
    Dont wait for your boat to come in 'Swim out and meet the bloody thing' ;)
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me what proportion of households in the private rented sector are on housing benefit? I was in 4 rented houses for a total of 13 years without claiming HB (or qualifying for it). I imagine it varies a lot by area, though, doesn't it?
    I am sure many people don't claim anything because they either [a] didn't know they could it was too complex/they were moving/didn't have the paperwork immediately (e.g. self-employed needing up to date tax returns).

    Did you ever try to claim? Or just assume there was nothing to claim? Or maybe you knew you could and didn't bother as it'd only be £5-10/week, but didn't appreciate the vast array of new freebies being a claimant of the one could open up to you?
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    I am sure many people don't claim anything because they either [a] didn't know they could it was too complex/they were moving/didn't have the paperwork immediately (e.g. self-employed needing up to date tax returns).

    Did you ever try to claim? Or just assume there was nothing to claim? Or maybe you knew you could and didn't bother as it'd only be £5-10/week, but didn't appreciate the vast array of new freebies being a claimant of the one could open up to you?

    I had more than £16k in savings (or whatever the amount was back then), which I had inherited when my grandmother died, so have never been eligible for any means tested benefits. Apart from CTC/WTC, of course, which only tests income and not capital.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • I wonder what % of this 76% are in receipt of other benefits though, child tax credits and the kind that can still allow them to afford the current rent, we haven't seen the effect of the child benefits reductions yet

    Is it in anyway possible that Cameron doesn't want rent controls as he knows that the proposed cuts across the board may in effect bring natural rebalance?

    Cameron doesn't want rent controls as he needs the Private Rental market to keep expanding.

    As long as there are properties available to rent, it does not become a government issue to house the population.

    I can't see the CB change affecting private rental rates that much to be honest.
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    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    1.6m households on Housing Benefit are in the private sector.

    (67% of the 5.05 in receipt of Housing Benefit are under the social sector leaving 33% in the private sector)
    http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/index.php?page=hbctb

    There are 3.6m private rental households in England:
    http://www.theonlinelettingagents.co.uk/news/statistics-private-rental-sector-vs-social-rental-sector/

    That suggests 44% of those in the private sector are receiving housing benefit. Not 24%.
  • That suggests 44% of those in the private sector are receiving housing benefit. Not 24%.

    Not according to the DCLG.

    Table 2.4 shows that HB was received by 63% of social renters and 25% of private renters, with less than 1% of owner occupiers receiving SMI.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/6739/2173283.pdf
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Not according to the DCLG.

    Table 2.4 shows that HB was received by 63% of social renters and 25% of private renters, with less than 1% of owner occupiers receiving SMI.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/6739/2173283.pdf

    Don't ya just love facts :)
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Graham, the DWP site that you quote is talking about "people" claiming HB, whereas the other data being quoted is about "households". How does HB work? Is it claimed by one person per household, or do couples make joint claims and get counted as two "people". Or maybe they are counting all the people in each household.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
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