PWC's responsibility to inform change in NRP's circumstance?

guruchelles

Hi All,

Whose responsibility is it to inform the CSA of a change in the NRP's circumstances?

My NRP got a nil assessment in 2007 because he was on benefits. He started working some time in 2008 and didn't inform them, but we had a private arrangement (I think he gave me cash but I can't fully remember and didn't make a note of it). He's worked ever since and in 2010 started paying with a banker's draft so I can trace that back.

At the very end of 2011 he got a new job and told me he earned the same so he wasn't going to increase payments so in January 2012 I informed the CSA of the change in circumstances.

Having just spoken to the CSA on the phone the assessment is only going to be backdated to January 2012. To be honest I didn't really expect more than this and I am not going to be petty and try to chase for any more, but it strikes me that there seem to be no repercussions on him to have informed the CSA of him getting work in 2008... and that, as an individual who actually knows very little about what my NRP is up to it's down to me to guess if he's earning more. He could, for instance, get a second job, not tell me, not tell the CSA and completely get away with it.

Doesn't seem fair.

labyrinth84

At what point did the private arrangement stop, as in no money received?

kevin137

Had you had been receiving benefits at any stage in this time...??? Not judging, but if you where, then it wasn't YOUR money way back when, it was the property of the SoS so you would of by your actions actually of been committing an offence... After a point in time it changed, but i believe it was sometime in 2010 that things became different, so you could be quids in, and that wouldn't be fair to the tax payer...

As for why they will not back date, this is because of many reasons, and it is a very fair way of doing things, did he keep paying after you notified them...? Have you told them of any payments received after this time, did you notify him you had gone to the CSA...?

I understand your frustration, you are free to ask for a reassessment at any stage, if there is a change they will address it, if there is nothing then they won't, all this would of been in the literature you received when your case was 1st opened, and again when the change happened and he went to benefits. So you can't say you didn't know. And if you took the word of an ex, then you are really crazy, they are ex's for a reason, and trust is normally one of the things, so why would you trust someone with your childs money....

I hope you get it sorted and he pays without being an a***hole and going back on benefits though...

Debicj

From my own experience, although the NRP should inform the CSA of any changes, if they don't, nothing will be done about it.

The NRP in my case, changed jobs, was being paid much more than previously and should have been paying approx. £60 per week more through the CSA. Luckily I informed the CSA of this change of employment and requested a reassessment. The CSA did nothing. However, I didn't let it drop and eventually (around 5 years later) got the reassessment backdated to the date of my original request and received the full amount of arrears as an advance payment from the CSA.

My advice based on my experience, would be to regularly request a reassessment if you think the NRP has changed employment as they probably won't bother to inform the CSA themselves if they think it will lead to an increase in their payments.

anonx_2

i think you already know the answer really - it is the responsibility of the nrp to inform csa of changes as the changes apply to him, just like when your no longer entitled to cb anymore you will be the one to take responsibility to make them aware your no longer entitled. yet he may do it for you instead, i hope things work out,

wayne0

actually... it is the responsibility of BOTH the PWC and the NRP to report ANY changes to EITHER party which they are aware of...

however: a NRP is only LEGALLY ABLIGED (meaning they legally need to) report a change of job if they are on a DEO.

Change of Address / Tel no, ETC is required within 7 days of the change happeing (and not before the change). - which is a b*tch if your leaving the country...

WYSPECIAL

wayne0 wrote: »

Change of Address / Tel no, ETC is required within 7 days of the change happeing (and not before the change). - which is a b*tch if your leaving the country...

By law you have to tell them of change of address and if on a DEO change of employer.

No need to tell them of any other changes unless you want to. No need to give them a telephone number, in fact many people refuse to have contact by telephone and insist on everything being in writing. Much better evidentially when they mess it up!

wayne0

oh no...

if they have your phone number, you legally have to keep them up to date with new numbers...

obviously, if you tell them to remove your phone number, then you dont need to tell them of a new number...
the csa have my landline tel no. and my mobile no. i wrote to them to tell them that my landline is D/C... and i do not want verbal comms with them. they still call me up. to which i tell them "put it in writing." -

but: heres an idea: any letter you send to the csa make a note: "All calls are recorded for evidental purposes" - the number of calls will reduce

- i send a cd with mp3 recordings of calls to my mp. he is following up my complaint over the way they speak to people. - he recieved a letter that called me lazy because i claim CTC. he said he couldnt believe the outright attrociousness / mannerism of the people.

https://www.gov.uk/complain-child-support-agency

the CSA resolve complaints within 15 days... (apparantly)

my complaint has been on going for over a month without any response... lol.
(the way they speak to me on the phone, the content of the letter they sent to my MP, the variation calculation, ETC ETC ETC)

CSA is a rule onto itself...

but it is clearly stated that EITHER / BOTH parties should report a change in circs to the CSA... not just the NRP