new bike-two locks, or take front wheel off?

hotcookie101

I'm getting a new (expensive) road bike soon. I have a kryptonite sold secure silver (or maybe gold, can't remember-is a few years old, one of the new york yellow& black ones) d lock, and a cable that can go through that (that with my cheaper bike I thread through lock which is through back wheel& frame, around frame and through front wheel)
OH is worried the cable is not strong/secure enough for my new bike, so am debating whether to buy a second lock (maybe a cable type one?) or just take the front wheel off and stick it with the dlock on the back wheel...
Not sure how awkward it would be to take wheel off and on (have mech discs)
Any thoughts? or recommendations for locks.

ljonski

there is a kryptonite lock that can be undone by a bic pen.I hope that its not yours!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahDQ2ZQ3e0

hotcookie101

No, it's not one of them

ljonski

I think locks are divided into primary and secondary locks . you need at least one primary lock if the bike will be coming home at the end of the day.if it will be staying overnight somewhere else on a regular basis then you have to make a call between security and weight of the lock whilst travelling.
http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/01/03/the-very-best-bike-locks/

alexanderalexander

ljonski wrote: »

there is a kryptonite lock that can be undone by a bic pen.I hope that its not yours!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahDQ2ZQ3e0

That's a very old lock in that video. Those circular-key type D-locks haven't been produced by the best lock manufacturers for years now, primarily (I assume) for this very reason.

Regarding the OP's question, two good-quality D-locks will be better than one good-quality lock and a supplementary cable (although there's a trade off between that and weight). I don't see how a separate cable lock would necessarily be any better -- same to cut as a supplementary cable surely?

foomanchu

D Lock and cable is a good compromise more practical to carry. If you don't have to carry with you, you can also consider a Sold Secure motorbike chain lock. The motorbike grading is higher than bike grading - motorbike Gold is better than cycle Gold. I use one with a motorbike Gold ground anchor in concrete at home.

Mids_Costcutter

As it's a road bike, you may only be concerned with locking the bike securely at home?

If a ground anchor is not practical, a cheap and effective measure is to make your own concrete bucket. Fill a bucket with concrete and then insert a steel / iron handle or iron loop into the concrete. Insert sticks through the handle and balance on the lips of the bucket to stop the handle sinking into the concrete before it sets. Once the concrete has set just turn upside down and you have a difficult to move object to run a cable or a D-lock through.

Too many people (including myself in the past) keep bikes unlocked inside a shed or a garage. Best to lock them onto something difficult / impossible to move inside too.

liz545

If you're locking it up for a longer period of time, say overnight or when you're at work, then I'd consider two locks or removing the front wheel. If it's just for quick stops then a cable is a good compromise, and I'd probably consider replacing the quick-release skewers for ordinary or locking bolts.

armyknife

hotcookie101 wrote: »

I'm getting a new (expensive) road bike soon. I have a kryptonite sold secure silver (or maybe gold, can't remember-is a few years old, one of the new york yellow& black ones) d lock, and a cable that can go through that (that with my cheaper bike I thread through lock which is through back wheel& frame, around frame and through front wheel)
OH is worried the cable is not strong/secure enough for my new bike, so am debating whether to buy a second lock (maybe a cable type one?) or just take the front wheel off and stick it with the dlock on the back wheel...
Not sure how awkward it would be to take wheel off and on (have mech discs)
Any thoughts? or recommendations for locks.

I'll be locking my rather mundane bike next to yours.

hotcookie101

Mids_Costcutter wrote: »

As it's a road bike, you may only be concerned with locking the bike securely at home?

At home, work, gym & occasionally the shops if I pop in on my way home after work or gym. Work I think I might keep it inside if I get permission from my boss (as can't keep it undercover outside)

slicence

I share your woes with this. I have a fairly expensive road bike, but had my other bike stolen, so I have to use my road bike. I've bought a new D Lock, as the older ones can deteriorate quickly, especially when subjected to rain/sleet/too much sun (!). Get a really good new lock, and undo the front wheel and lock it to the back wheel and the frame. So far in Manchester, this is going well for me, and hs been good for 3 years (touch wood eeek!)