We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Tax relief on mileage...but now have fuel card

Hi all

In a few weeks time I will be starting a new job and due to the mileage I will be doing I will be issued with a fuel card.

I can use this for private miles also.

I will receive a car allowance each month which is similar to my existing job.

Last year I did around 10k business miles, and as such claimed about 1k back in tax relief.

I'm a little confused how tax relief will work if you get a fuel card, do you waive the right to claim....I guess I've not paid for the fuel so can't claim surely?

So then how do I get taxed on the private Miles I do?

Then to add another spin on it! This tax year is going to have mileage of again somewhere in the region of 9k from my old job and then a couple of months of using the fuel card.....how's that gonna work?


Aaarrrrghhh

Comments

  • nearlyrich
    nearlyrich Posts: 13,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker Hung up my suit!
    I have a fuel card I pay tax on £4k ish (I can't remember the exact amount) you won't be claiming extra tax relief as you won't be spending money on fuel. If you pay private miles you might get some respite from the full amount of the taxable benefit of a fuel card, I don't know anyone with a fuel card who pays private miles. IF two employers in the tax year with different systems you will just claim what you are entltled to for the time you are entitled to it maybe by filling in a tax return?
    Free impartial debt advice from: National Debtline or Stepchange[/CENTER]
  • nearlyrich wrote: »
    I don't know anyone with a fuel card who pays private miles. ?

    Is this because they are doing no private miles or just not declaring them?
  • paulus
    paulus Posts: 74 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    I assume that this is a private, rather than company car. The bottom line is that you can claim tax relief on business mileage at 45p per mile (up to 10k miles) less the cost of the business element of the fuel. The cost of private fuel will be taxable.

    So if claiming relief via a P87 you show business miles at 45p less total cost of fuel (in mileage allowance paid box) and claim relief on the difference.
  • nearlyrich
    nearlyrich Posts: 13,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker Hung up my suit!
    polska1979 wrote: »
    Is this because they are doing no private miles or just not declaring them?

    At the company I work for we don't declare private miles because we pay tax on the fuel card and the company pays the bill, I don't know anyone with a fuel card who pays for private miles, their companies pay their private miles and they pay the tax on the benefit of the fuel card
    Free impartial debt advice from: National Debtline or Stepchange[/CENTER]
  • paulus
    paulus Posts: 74 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Is yours a company car or private car Nearlyrich? If a company car it is normally not tax efficient to pay tax on private miles. The tax is often higher than the fuel costs so most repay private miles. If a private car it is very unusual to have fuel cards. Most pay only business mileage at HMRC's advisory fuel rates.
  • nearlyrich
    nearlyrich Posts: 13,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker Hung up my suit!
    Mine is a company car but we do have a car scheme where you can use your own car and get an allowance, the car allowance drivers also get a fuel card and pay the tax on the card.

    I agree it's probably a bit cheaper to repay private miles but the hassle factor of logging every mile :eek:
    The tax even at 40% on £8k ( company car tax plus fuel card tax) is approx £3200 (£266 per month)so reasonable for running a "free" new £25k car replaced every two years with no insurance tyres servicing etc.

    I have looked for a deal on personal lease based on the same car and my mileage and it would cost me twice the allowance the company offer and I would still be paying tax on the fuel card so it's a no brainer for me.

    We do get the value out of the fuel card as we do a fair bit of weekend travel and I don't have to spend time on expenses claims or my own money funding the fuel up front.;)
    Free impartial debt advice from: National Debtline or Stepchange[/CENTER]
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.