Isolation from Europe wouldn't be splendid for the UK?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

CLAPTON wrote: »

our capitains of industry.

Speaking of which....

CBI: UK must stay in Europe to boost business success

The CBI's John Cridland says the UK needs to work within Europe to help business.

The CBI says the UK needs to keep its place within the European Union to push for freer trade for its businesses.

The business lobby group says the UK should use the EU to help rebalance the economy towards exports and create new trade deals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20873915

If leaving the EU was such a good thing for the British Economy, why is the Confederation of British Industry so against it?

Sampong

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20873915

If leaving the EU was such a good thing for the British Economy, why is the Confederation of British Industry so against it?

Weren't the CBI in favour of privatisation aswell?

Big business loves the EU, mass immigration keeps unemployment high and depresses wages. The CBI are as bad as the bent politicians.

Simple really, you just have to take off the rose tinted glasses.

Sampong

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20351717

In reference to the 2012 CBI conference;

With both Prime Minister David Cameron and Labour leader Ed Miliband giving speeches, not to forget Business Secretary Vince Cable and London Mayor Boris Johnson, the focus was definitely more on political points scoring than exploring best business practice.

.....the focus was on political points scoring rather than exploring best business practices?

How about our government pull their heads out of there rears - STOP political point scoring and actually, for once, just once - do something that will benefit the people of this country, and NOT big business who are on a huge tax dodge.

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20873915

If leaving the EU was such a good thing for the British Economy, why is the Confederation of British Industry so against it?

I can only assume you are being ironic in view of the CBI being totally in favour of joining the Euro, on being totally in favour of further banking deregulation (prior to 2007 of course), in favour of PFI; indeed they tend to be in favour of all the failed policies.

Anyway I am not totally in favour of leaving the EU but it needs massive reform which I think is unlikely to happen (they haven't even sorted out the disaster in Greece after dozens of summits and 5 years.

ValHaller

PaulF81 wrote: »

More to do with litigation and the ambulance chasing brigade.

Straining a wrist isn't h+s. preventing the next piper alpha or Tenerife crash is pure h+s.

H&S is diametrically opposed to ambulance chasing. If there are less ambulances on the move, there is less for ambulance chasers to chase

It seems strange to me that you are happily complacent about trips slips and falls and oblivious to the people in the ambulances, just as long as you can trip up the ambulance chasers.

homelessskilledworker

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Speaking of which....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20873915

If leaving the EU was such a good thing for the British Economy, why is the Confederation of British Industry so against it?

Is that the same CBI that suggested it would be madness not to join the Euro ten years ago.

homelessskilledworker

Sampong wrote: »

Weren't the CBI in favour of privatisation aswell?

Big business loves the EU, mass immigration keeps unemployment high and depresses wages. The CBI are as bad as the bent politicians.

Simple really, you just have to take off the rose tinted glasses.

The CBI are basically in favour(along with bankers and politicians) of getting the innocent low paid teetotaler to pay for the drunken excesses of those that screwed up pre 2007.

Hamish(along with a few others) do not give a hoots about race equilty or economics, it is as you say just another way to keep an inflated market hanging on through fear and saturation so the Banks do not lose anymore money should(in the case of this board) the housing market plummet.

We are all paying the price for the heavily mortgaged Hamishes of this world

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Trivial?

Hardly trivial when the hundreds of major companies that base their EU headquarters in the UK pack up and leave because the UK is no longer in the EU. So you would have that reduction in employment AS WELL AS the reduction in employment from falling population as EU residents lose their right to live/work here and leave.

So unemployment of the native born population would almost certainly increase, despite many foreigners leaving.

If we leave the EU our population will probably fall, and if our exit from the EU results in immigration of working age adults falling, then our population of working age adults will certainly fall. And this would be an extremely bad thing.

The ratio of workers to pensioners would worsen rapidly, resulting in significant tax increases for the remaining workers to support the elederly and a larger cost-per-person to maintain national infrastructure, services, defence, etc.

Well at least we can console ourselves that the EU will boom with all those returning migrants and I wish them well. (more people, more jobs, more wealth etc) Poland, Romainian etc will for ever sing our praises and will probably set up charities to help the poor Brits. One does wonder why they left in the first place knowing that people=jobs=wealth.

And at least you have moved from your rediculous and mad view that an additional 100,000 people automatically creates 100,000 more jobs and you now acknowledge that there are many other factors that affect employment.

Of course the ratio of pensioners to workers may well increase at bit in the short term;
but as you know the continual import of young people is a ponzi scheme that requires a exponential growth in population to sustain it.
(hint young migrants of say 25 now will become 65 in 40 years time, immigrants of 35 now will become 65 in 30 years time, immigrants of 45 now will become 65 in 20 years time.)
However, being blessed with significant unemployment and underemployment we will be able to improve the employment of those that remain.

lena90

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StevieJ

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

Is that the same CBI that suggested it would be madness not to join the Euro ten years ago.

Good ole Brownie, did us a big favour there