We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Thinking of getting Married - State Pension Query

Hi, I am 64 years old and in receipt of the basic State Pension plus a few pounds extra for Additional State Pension or something like that!

I am thinking of getting married to my long term partner, he also gets the State Pension ++ a few small extras. Its not much but we can just about manage. Am I right in thinking that our State Pensions will be unchanged if we marry - we wont be forced to claim a married couple's joint pension which would be less than our individual ones?

Thanks for any help

Comments

  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    There is no such thing as a married couple's joint pension.

    You each have state retirement entitlement in your own right, that will continue. You'll receive your state pension as if you were 2 single people living together. That's what DH and I do, and we've been married almost 11 years.

    What are the 'few small extras'? SERPS/S2P, or pension from former employment, that kind of thing?
    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Æ[/FONT]r ic wisdom funde, [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]æ[/FONT]r wear[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ð[/FONT] ic eald.
    Before I found wisdom, I became old.

  • What are the 'few small extras'? SERPS/S2P, or pension from former employment, that kind of thing?

    Yes, that is right. Thanks for your help.

    I got this from the Which Web site which made me think there was a married couple's pension.

    'Full basic state pension for 2012-13 for a single person is £107.45 per week. Full basic state pension for a married couple (or civil partners) for £2012-13 is £171.85.'
  • More4Less wrote: »
    Full basic state pension for a married couple (or civil partners) for £2012-13 is £171.85.'
    a married couple's pension is where only one partner has paid his/her ni for thirty years plus

    you've both earned your own so you're okay as a pevious poster said.

    cheers

    fj
  • Linton
    Linton Posts: 18,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Hung up my suit!
    edited 27 December 2012 at 11:41PM
    More4Less wrote: »
    Yes, that is right. Thanks for your help.

    I got this from the Which Web site which made me think there was a married couple's pension.

    'Full basic state pension for 2012-13 for a single person is £107.45 per week. Full basic state pension for a married couple (or civil partners) for £2012-13 is £171.85.'

    This only applies if one of the couple does not have a state pension in their own right, for example a wife who has never been employed as was common many years ago.

    (Or if their employment entitles them to less than the £64 extra in the married couples pension)
  • I got this from the Which Web site which made me think there was a married couple's pension.

    'Full basic state pension for 2012-13 for a single person is £107.45 per week. Full basic state pension for a married couple (or civil partners) for £2012-13 is £171.85.'

    I really wish the powers-that-be would change their terminology, because this is misleading and leads to this question being asked time and again.
    [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Æ[/FONT]r ic wisdom funde, [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]æ[/FONT]r wear[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ð[/FONT] ic eald.
    Before I found wisdom, I became old.
  • The Which website does explain it correctly, but then under the heading Joint Pensions goes on to muddle things again with:

    Effectively, the non-qualifying partner receives reduced basic state pension of £64.40 per week. Where both couples qualify for full state pension, they receive this individually, getting £107.45 each- giving them a combined basic pension of £214.90 per week.

    implying there is such a thing as a joint pension not received individually!
  • Thanks everyone. Crystal clear now, can think about marriage with that problem out of the way.

    Happy New Year to All!
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.