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  • MiLady
    MiLady Posts: 12 Forumite
    edited 20 December 2012 at 4:22PM
    I do not need to justify myself
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    Playing devils advocate here but I;m tempted to say,

    !!!!!!, just get on with it and stop moaning.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    MiLady wrote: »
    Another poster who presumes that their disagreeing reply wasn't "genuine". Thank you mr/mrs barristar I appreciate your assumptions, I bow down to your almighty greatness. It was more the comments on the presumption that nurses should be super human and soldier on at the detriment to their own health that was my issue. Clearly believe too much of what is in the media.

    7 weeks is a very long time in a job that is making you ill. And I've been doing this job now for over two months and its getting worse, not better.

    Not at all do I believe everything that I read in the media. Nor do I believe everything I read on here either. Nobody suggested that you should be superhuman or anything else - I said that whinging about how much you hate your job and can't carry on for three more weeks is pathetic. Nobody forced you to apply for this job. You don't like it, fine. You are lucky that you have another job, and I hope it will be more to your liking. If that job hadn't been available, what were you going to do - whinge some more, or just get on with it like anybody else has to do? But blaming everything and everybody else for your choices and playing the "oh woe is me, I have to work in a job I don't like for a few weeks" is pitiful.
  • Fair enough, OP. Resign and serve 4 weeks' notice. But don't be surprised if the transfer offer does not turn into a job offer as the employer may well see your resignation as exactly that - that you don't want to work for the employer anymore, that their trust and confidence in you can be doubted by your resignation so that you get your own way and that you are effectively playing games with them.

    If I were the employer, I would question all of the above and also ask whether the new role is sufficiently different to the current role which is obviously so abhorrent to you and endangers your health. Is it worth the risk of offering you the new role if you can't handle 5 weeks in the old?
  • MiLady
    MiLady Posts: 12 Forumite
    edited 20 December 2012 at 4:22PM
    I do not need to justify myself
  • Best way to not disclose too much is to stop typing.
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 20 December 2012 at 3:00PM
    In my younger days, a long time ago, I might add, to make ends meet

    Ive gutted turkeys, plucked eggs from under chickens, been on my hands and knees picking taties, been on a tatie machine in the middle of knowwhere in the freezing cold planting taties, cleaning, among other jobs. Thankfully I moved on. I didnt enjoy most of them, some of them made me ill, but its your own ability to deal with a situation which enables you to get on with it, in my opinion and that;s all the yardstick I have.

    Mindset, I still feel you are not reading all the other posts, just set your mind to doing it for the 3 weeks and it will all be done with.

    Just because you had a period of insomnia before doesnt mean you will again, you will end up having insomnia because youre worrying about having insomnia.

    Am I right in thinking that tonic clonic seizures are connected with epilipsy, have you been tested for epilepsy.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • OP - your situation is unfortunate as you are now in a diffiult position. If you resign, there is no guarantee that the new job will be offered to you so this will be risky. But then, if you cannot continue with the current job, resignation is your only option.

    The point that we have tried to make is that your notice period is irrelevant to your transfer. Your employer does not have to honour your notice period as you are not leaving their employment but transferring to another department. It is therefore for the departments to agree when this happens. They are doing nothing wrong.

    Hence my suggestion that you ask your new department if they can help get you there any quicker. Kicking off with your current department is unlikely to help as they are doing nothing wrong and word will get back to your new department and HR that you are causing a fuss. You have only been employed by them for a few months so they can wave goodbye to you very easily.
  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 13,986 Forumite
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    I don't think the OP has to justify why they want to move from one job to another; the question would be equally valid if they had simply said I don't like job A and have been offered job B.

    The complication is whether the job change is an internal transfer as opposed to leaving one employer and starting afresh with another.

    In the case of the internal transfer, then it seems that that is not governed by employment law, notice etc., whereas changing employer would.

    Either option could be possible in a hospital dependent upon whether either role is operated as a separate company.

    I think it would be an idea to discuss it with HR - it is totally within their remit to deal with this sort of thing.
  • MiLady
    MiLady Posts: 12 Forumite
    Pricivius and prowla, thank you, your responses have been most helpful. You have picked up on my dilemma precisely, thank you for your advice, I will try this. I do not want to go off sick, my sickness record is impeccable and my reputation is exceptional, I don't want to ruin this. Thank you.
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