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£360 for tooth whitening (trays at home type)- Good deal?

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This was my regular dentist that quoted me this price- she says the results ARE BETTER with trays, than with Zoom2.

But Still, £360 for tray whitening sounds pricey to me?

What do you think?
“Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. ”
― Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
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  • welshdent
    welshdent Posts: 2,000 Forumite
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    If it is coming from your dentist then it is legal so thats good. I dont believe in the light based whitening systems. If it worked so well why do they need to give "top up trays" which are basically the same as the home whitening kits? ;)
    Custom trays and gel systems to be worn at home IMHO are the best systems. If the daily mail is anything to go by they seem to think every one charges £700! Complete nonsense but what can you expect with that lot lol.
  • Toothsmith
    Toothsmith Posts: 10,105 Forumite
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    I charge slightly more than that. But I guarantee the result, and supply as much gel as necessary to get that result (Or give money back).

    I make sure no-one is expecting something ridiculous like TOWIE or to match the fridge, but generally it gets a very good result so long as I only do it for patients who are suitable. (Which is what untrained beauticians will not have the ability to do.)

    If you go for a cheaper 'offer' - you'll probably only get a set amount of gel which might not be enough to get a proper result.

    If you go for someone doing it illegally (but cheaply), then goodness knows what you'll be getting. Unsuitable chemicals, zero knowledge, no insurance, no privacy, no cross-infection control - the list goes on...

    I would go with the dentist you know rather than taking a leap into the unknown.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
  • Toothsmith wrote: »

    If you go for a cheaper 'offer' - you'll probably only get a set amount of gel which might not be enough to get a proper result.

    If you go for someone doing it illegally (but cheaply), then goodness knows what you'll be getting. Unsuitable chemicals, zero knowledge, no insurance, no privacy, no cross-infection control - the list goes on...

    I would go with the dentist you know rather than taking a leap into the unknown.

    I'm not about to go to someone with a tiny brain who works from a stall located outside of a market. I probably will get mine done with my dentist or one of the other 15 in the practice.

    Just out of interest; What do you think the best system is?
    “Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. ”
    ― Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    I did the trays with the gel - and I could order more gel if needed etc. It was really good. Think I paid £200 or so for the trays, then for gel, coming to around £300 in total.

    My dentist also doesn't like the Zoom / light techniques - her opinion is that it effectively dehydrates the tooth, and so it immediately appears whiter, but actually hasn't changed to a permanent white (for whatever technical reason!).
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  • Toothsmith
    Toothsmith Posts: 10,105 Forumite
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    samc1234 wrote: »
    Just out of interest; What do you think the best system is?

    The systems are all pretty similar.

    Gel & trays are generally superior to the power systems long-term, but there are those that advocate the power systems for specific situations. It's a bit unclear as to which of the power systems are still legal after 31st Oct though!

    The real trick in tooth whitening is patient selection.

    Making sure that the people you do it for are suitable and that it will work well for them. And being honest with people who it won't work for. That's the bit you need to get right, rather than the system!
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
  • Toothsmith wrote: »
    The systems are all pretty similar.

    Gel & trays are generally superior to the power systems long-term, but there are those that advocate the power systems for specific situations. It's a bit unclear as to which of the power systems are still legal after 31st Oct though!

    The real trick in tooth whitening is patient selection.

    Making sure that the people you do it for are suitable and that it will work well for them. And being honest with people who it won't work for. That's the bit you need to get right, rather than the system!

    When you say 'will work for'... how do you mean?

    I thought it worked for everyone :/
    “Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. ”
    ― Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
  • Toothsmith
    Toothsmith Posts: 10,105 Forumite
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    Most people it probably would do to some degree or another. But not everybody.

    It doesn't whiten porcelain or white filling - so you could end up with a very 'patchy' mouth if you had crowns, veneers, or fillings in front teeth.

    Although it will get rid of some discolourations within teeth, it will highlight the contrast in others - making them look worse.

    And very dark teeth can sometimes not be helped by it.

    Plus - you need to know what the patient's expectations are. If the expectations are realistic, then you will be successful. If the patient comes in looking like the early Nanny McFee and expects to leave looking like Kate Moss - then no shade of white tooth is going to achieve that! And you need to tell them that they are not going to achieve a suitable result from tooth whitening! :D
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
  • Toothsmith wrote: »
    Most people it probably would do to some degree or another. But not everybody.

    It doesn't whiten porcelain or white filling - so you could end up with a very 'patchy' mouth if you had crowns, veneers, or fillings in front teeth.

    Although it will get rid of some discolourations within teeth, it will highlight the contrast in others - making them look worse.

    And very dark teeth can sometimes not be helped by it.

    Plus - you need to know what the patient's expectations are. If the expectations are realistic, then you will be successful. If the patient comes in looking like the early Nanny McFee and expects to leave looking like Kate Moss - then no shade of white tooth is going to achieve that! And you need to tell them that they are not going to achieve a suitable result from tooth whitening! :D


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    On that chart; my teeth are probably between M15 and M2- no restorations in the front teeth or premolars. The colour is pretty constant as well, would it work for me? I'm only asking you because my dentist is very corporate.
    “Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. ”
    ― Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
  • brook2jack
    brook2jack Posts: 4,563 Forumite
    We can't tell without looking at you in the flesh. Photos etc can be very deceiving particularly where whitening is concerned.

    There are some people you can say it will be difficult to get improvement, however most people will have lighter teeth.

    It may take longer with some, or different techniques may have to be used.

    What you can say is that every person seems to have a level their teeth will lighten to and no amount of treatment will get them beyond this endpoint. You cannot tell where this endpoint is until you start whitening.

    However this is why you see a dentist who should be telling you this and who will review you during treatment and adjust as necessary.
  • Toothsmith
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    samc1234 wrote: »

    Then get a dentist you're happy with!

    'Corporate' or not, he's still a GDC registered professional, and open to proper procedure should you have a complaint!

    If he's said it's OK to have your teeth whitened, then who am I to judge just from a picture of a shade guide? Go with the opinion of he bloke who's seen you! That's he person you'll be complaining about if what he's said isn't right!
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
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