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Car written off, premiums refunded? No.

Hello, first time poster and could really do with some advice... I'll start from the top here...

My carwas recently broken in to outside of my home. The would-be thief bent the topof the door and unlocked the car through the gap they had made. They had a goodroot around but got away with nothing as far as I could see. I called Admiraland they came to collect the car as it was now unsecure on the road. They arranged for thecollection and bringing the car to a nearby garage for an assessment. A fewdays later, despite the minimal damage. I was informed the car had been writtenoff. I then waited for the valuation and final settlement amount and was agenerally satisfied with the offer, minus the excess.

I hadhowever hoped that my insurance premium which I paid in full only 3 or 4 months earliermight have been added in as well, seeing as the policy was now defunct, but apparently within the terms and conditions ofmy policy, this money is Admirals to keep and can be factored in to any new policy I get with Admiral up to the date of renewal.

This is a bit gutting, if Id paid in installments I'd be better off. I'm not really prepared to go rooting through the T's and C's to see if the clause is there. I understand I'll get money off my next policy (supposedly), but I'm thinking of packing in driving altogether for the moment as I can't afford it.

Do I have a cause for complaint here, or should I just be happy with the offer I got and stop my bellyaching.

Thanks,
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  • maginot
    maginot Posts: 484 Forumite
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    Even if you paid in instalments you would still have to had to pay the full premium.
    You paid for a years premium and therefore have to pay a years premium if you make a claim.
    Hopefully your new vehicle can be covered by the same premium!

    There are monthly premiums you can take out if you want to only pay per month instead of per year. However these are much more expensive and difficult to get NCD
  • You'd have been better getting a door from the local breakers yard.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,814 Forumite
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    Do I have a cause for complaint here

    no.

    Car insurance is not pay as you go. It comes in 12 month blocks and is designed to pay out on claims made either on day 1 or day 365 or any day in between. However, most insurers (but not all) will transfer the policy to a new vehicle.
    This is a bit gutting, if Id paid in installments I'd be better off.

    No you wouldnt. You would just be left with loan payments on the installments to which cost you more over 12 months than paying up front.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Thanks for the answers. I understand what you're all saying. However they have cancelled the policy so there is definitely no recourse there?
    Sgt_Pepper wrote: »
    You'd have been better getting a door from the local breakers yard.

    To be honest I was hoping they would write it off, I don't use it much.
  • rtparrott wrote: »


    To be honest I was hoping they would write it off, I don't use it much.

    So why the rant then?
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,814 Forumite
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    However they have cancelled the policy so there is definitely no recourse there?

    You said you claimed on it.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Sgt_Pepper wrote: »
    So why the rant then?

    Sorry I wasn't aware I was ranting? I asked for advice and said I felt slightly hard done by.
    dunstonh wrote: »
    You said you claimed on it.

    Yes I claimed, they wrote it off, so there is no car to insure, the policy is defunct.
  • The policy has served its purpose, you insured for a year, within that year you needed to claim and did so. If you had paid in installments (effectively a loan) then you'd still be paying the installments even after the claim had been processed and the car written off.
    I'm a qualified accountant but please make sure you get expert advice as any opinion is made in a private capacity.
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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,814 Forumite
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    Yes I claimed, they wrote it off, so there is no car to insure, the policy is defunct.

    So they didnt cancel it then. You claimed and it served its purpose and has come to a natural end (unless you get a new vehicle)
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • The Admiral policies are famous for this.

    With any insurer, on a total loss claim, they will want to pull in the full premium before paying you out (otherwise people would do exactly what you are wanting to do, take the write off settlement but then not pay the rest of the premium for the remaining months of the policy). This would leave the insurer far worse off.

    The bit that applies to the Admiral policies in general though (or at the very least used to )which represents very bad value for money if you have a claim is that if your car is written off, that's your policy finished with.

    So you insure a new car today and pay say a £500 premium in full. Tomorrow you write the car off. They pay you out on the policy for the write off and that's your policy finished with. When you buy a replacement car, you have to take out a new policy all over again. So it cost you £500 for 1 day of insurance.

    This is why I would personally avoid any of the Admiral group policies.
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