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sabelu
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Previously on the border of 40% tax feel I gonna now be included does this mean i lose on tax but gain on tax relief on my pension contributions?
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  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    You might consider contributing a bit more to your pensions so that you avoid 40% tax altogether. That way you'll get the advantage of the larger personal allowance but no disadvantage at the 40% rate.
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  • sabelu
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    kidmugsy wrote: »
    You might consider contributing a bit more to your pensions so that you avoid 40% tax altogether. That way you'll get the advantage of the larger personal allowance but no disadvantage at the 40% rate.

    But surely if i wanted to add a lump sum i would lose out on the 40% relief?
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  • thenudeone
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    You can only get tax relief if you've actually paid the tax (with an exception for contributions of up to £3600 gross pa which gain tax relief even if you haven't paid any tax).

    The pension contribution effectively takes the top slice of your income away

    So if someone earning £50k wants to put £1000 into their pension they only have to pay £600 for it (they pay a cheque for £800, and they get £200 back from hmrc later); because the tax they've paid on that earnings was 40%

    If someone earning £30k wants to put £1000 into their pension they have to pay £800 for it; because the tax they've paid on that earnings was 20%.

    In both cases the people have earned £1000 from their employer and that's what has ended up in their pension fund.

    But you can only "get relief" for as much tax at 40% as you've actually paid in the year.

    If you're near the borderline and considering making a large contribution, it would be wise to consider phasing contributions across tax years carefully in order to reduce the overall net cost to you; although it's possible that you'll lose out if the tax relief is meddled with again in future years.
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  • CLAPTON
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    you pay 40% if you earn more than 42,475 after pension contributions have been deducted

    so for example if you paid 5,000 (gross) into your pension then you could earn 47,475 before paying 40% tax

    the 40% tax is only paid on the amount over 42475

    maybe post your figures and we can explain how it works for you.
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