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Childcare vouchers from employer

Does anyone know how these work?

At the moment we pay £600pm in nursery fees. How does it work if you get Childcare vouchers as part of your pay? Can anyone tell me please?

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  • I think they get taken off Pre Tax, therefore you save on the Tax element of the voucher.

    i.e you earn £1,000 per mth, currently you would pay 20% tax on £1000, so say £200, therefore you take home £800, out of which you pay your childcare @ £600 so you have £200 left

    with vouchers, they take the £600 off your gross pay, so only £400 left for tax, 20% of £400 is £80, so you are left with £380

    so £180 better off.

    obviously, ive rounded and ignored NI for simplicity.:cool:
  • ironman1
    ironman1 Posts: 1,125 Forumite
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    Sounds good. So if my gf earns £1320 per month before tax could she take the full £600 childcare fees and what would her take home a month be after they come out please?
  • tizerbelle
    tizerbelle Posts: 1,921 Forumite
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    You can only get £55 week / £243 month of vouchers and that assumes your employer runs a childcare voucher scheme. If they don't you can't make them.

    There's an MSE article here that might help http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/childcare-vouchers

    You can put your girlfriends pay details into this site http://www.listentotaxman.com/ and add in the amount for childcare vouchers in the relevant box and it will work out her salary, tax and ni
  • ironman1
    ironman1 Posts: 1,125 Forumite
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    Thanks for all your help. I have to admit I just cant get my head round it! It seems anything to do with childcare is confusing.
  • Lovelyjoolz
    Lovelyjoolz Posts: 1,070 Forumite
    edited 29 November 2012 at 1:24PM
    Don't let it confuse you. It's not complicated, it's very, very simple.

    Her employer takes £243 per month out of her gross salary each month and pays it directly to the nursery.

    If you are questioning whether it's a good option for you, then yes, it always is, because of the tax you will save.

    Because of what you save in tax & NI, the £243 deducted will only really cost you about £165 (i.e. she will have £165 less in her pay each month). So effectively, the government will pay £78 per month towards your childcare costs.

    Couldn't be much simpler really.

    Of course it all depends on whether her employer operates a scheme although frankly, it's SO easy to operate I can't understand why they wouldn't.

    The figures I've quoted will vary according to tax codes. If you want a more accurate figure, give me her gross salary and her tax code and I'll happily work i out for you.
    You had me at your proper use of "you're".
  • The reason why alot have stopped offering this or don't do it to start with is that because its a benefit if the person goes on paternity/maternity leave they still get paid the vouchers.

    The only benefit for the company as far as I can see is a lower national insurance contribution but obviously if they end up paying someone £250 a month whilst on maternity it won't work in their favour.
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  • i claim the full £243 of child care vouchers every month (the highest amount) and it works out that i have around £160 deducted from my salary so in fact I gain about £80 ish that is not taxed well worth it



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  • gibson123
    gibson123 Posts: 1,733 Forumite
    The reason why alot have stopped offering this or don't do it to start with is that because its a benefit if the person goes on paternity/maternity leave they still get paid the vouchers.

    The only benefit for the company as far as I can see is a lower national insurance contribution but obviously if they end up paying someone £250 a month whilst on maternity it won't work in their favour.

    Nonsense

    Childcare Vouchers are paid instead of salary - if your basic pay is £1,000 per month and you get £250 paid in childcare vouchers and £750 paid in cash, then your remuneration is £1,000. Therefore if you are paid 90% of salary whilst on maternity it should be 90% of £1,000 not 90% of £750. When you stop getting vouchers your salary should be reinstated.

    You should be careful of two things:

    1. The effect on tax credits if you get any
    2. How this works if your employer pays contributions towards your pension, e.g. would the 6% of the pension contribution be based on the total remuneration or just on the "wage" part.
  • gibson123 wrote: »
    Nonsense

    Childcare Vouchers are paid instead of salary - if your basic pay is £1,000 per month and you get £250 paid in childcare vouchers and £750 paid in cash, then your remuneration is £1,000. Therefore if you are paid 90% of salary whilst on maternity it should be 90% of £1,000 not 90% of £750. When you stop getting vouchers your salary should be reinstated.

    You should be careful of two things:

    1. The effect on tax credits if you get any
    2. How this works if your employer pays contributions towards your pension, e.g. would the 6% of the pension contribution be based on the total remuneration or just on the "wage" part.

    No I don't think you are right

    http://www.payingforchildcare.org.uk/data/files/Childcare_during_maternity_leave_April_2012.pdf
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • gibson123
    gibson123 Posts: 1,733 Forumite
    :o:o:oI stand corrected and apologetic, some times us know alls need a good old humbling!!
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