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What if the debt collector steals the £1 Section 77/78 fee?
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mikerouse
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This is a bit of a new one to me.
Got a letter from Lewis Debt Recovery claiming I owe them money on behalf of Moneyway. Never heard of it, no recollection.
Sent the usual S.77/78 request with a postal order for £1.
The next chasing letter from Lewis Debt Recovery the amount owed was £1 lower. A later letter then said "The creditor is Moneyway and we are merely instructed to act on their behalf ... therefore suggest you submit your request to them directly"
I am about to write back and remind them that I told them Section 189 applied and it doesn't change the fact they've failed to comply with the request and provide the required information.
I want to also point out that they've basically stolen my £1 fee and would like them to send it back. How best to go about it? Theft Act 1968 or Fraud Act 2006? Or neither?
Thanks guys
Got a letter from Lewis Debt Recovery claiming I owe them money on behalf of Moneyway. Never heard of it, no recollection.
Sent the usual S.77/78 request with a postal order for £1.
The next chasing letter from Lewis Debt Recovery the amount owed was £1 lower. A later letter then said "The creditor is Moneyway and we are merely instructed to act on their behalf ... therefore suggest you submit your request to them directly"
I am about to write back and remind them that I told them Section 189 applied and it doesn't change the fact they've failed to comply with the request and provide the required information.
I want to also point out that they've basically stolen my £1 fee and would like them to send it back. How best to go about it? Theft Act 1968 or Fraud Act 2006? Or neither?
Thanks guys
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Neither. Unless you are a solicitor, I would stop quoting chapter and verse of the law.
Simply tell them that they appear to have used the £1 statutory fee to debit your account on date XX/XX/XXX. And that the fee was only to be used for your CCA request.
Keep a copy of this letter safe in case you need to use it in litigation for when the account becomes statute barred.BSC No 248
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Actually it is illegal for them to do so. I had the same with Cougar and pointed this out to them using the following -
"I refer to my letter dated XX/XX/XXXX in which I made a formal request under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (CCA1974) s.77-s.79 for a true copy of the regulated agreement referred to in the above account number; however I am saddened to learn that you have actually placed this £1 fee against the disputed balance which immediately puts you at breach of the CCA(1974) as you are not permitted to do this.
I await your prompt response in regards to the points raised above notwithstanding compliance of your statutory duties in line with s.78 & s.189 of the Consumer Credit Act as until delivered, you have defaulted in respect of this account which means that this account is in essence currently unenforceable; until such time as you come out of default or it is enforced by a court of law. "
Hope this helps
Just to add, this was drafted with the help from another forumLBM 11/2009 Total Debts 11/2009 £44624 with DFD 2015
Debt Free Date: 14/11/2012 :j:j:j0 -
I think a simple 'prove it' letter would be more appropriate if you have no knowledge of the alledged debt.0
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I think a simple 'prove it' letter would be more appropriate if you have no knowledge of the alledged debt.
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