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More than 1 in 10 shops now stand empty

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  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
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    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    I have been getting lots of things online since my teenage years, when its cheaper delivered than the shop + parking then what is the point.

    More interestingly I have started to see more joining me like my mum and dad, as money has got tighter it has pushed them too look elsewhere.

    As mentionened I do think it was only a matter of time.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Jonbvn wrote: »


    We use JL more than we used to. Their click an collect service is great for the smaller stuff, order day 1 delivered day 2 to a local Waitrose (which we have). No waiting in, just collect, after delivery, to suit.

    There prices are usually competitive (not necessarily the cheapest) and they will also price match providing the retailer has a "high street presence".

    If they promise a delivery slot for large items they will shift hell and high water to meet it.:T
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    wymondham wrote: »
    The changes i think are brought about by the web.... why pay for a shop when you can avoid it if you sell over the web? Plus if you do have a shop you'll always be undercut by those who are web only which is probably why so many are going to the wall...

    I can see local shops turning into 'essentials only' or specialist advice etc - anything else where you can wait for a delivery will be web based....

    One thing the web can do that local shops can't is you can always get what you want.... it's impossible for a shop to stock every item whereas a quick google will find exactly what you're after...

    I can only see more shops closing...

    Some people can't always wait for delivery and I think there will always be room for one of a type, in each vicinity.

    For a lot of larger items, white goods, large screens etc. many stores only act as an agent anyway, with delivery coming straight from the manufacturer.

    In our closest real town the council allowed a retail park to be developed about 1/2 mile outside the main high street. This together with the recession has led to the increase in voids in the original high street together with an increase in £ shops and pawnbrokers. Traffic access though is dreadful.

    The other killers are high business rates and car park tax (it isn't a charge on a council car park IMO) and large supermarkets that sell clothes, electricals, consumer goods and groceries.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I have been getting lots of things online since my teenage years, when its cheaper delivered than the shop + parking then what is the point.

    More interestingly I have started to see more joining me like my mum and dad, as money has got tighter it has pushed them too look elsewhere.

    As mentionened I do think it was only a matter of time.

    Don't tell Conrad.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Many of that 10% were probably not viable businesses to start with. Some were probably vanity projects, or those based around people's hobbies with little chance of achieving enough turnover. Others would have been based on highly optimistic business plans, or maybe no business plan at all. A number of the proprietors were no doubt unwilling or unable to put in sufficient effort in terms of things like :- customer service and care, opening hours, attractive & well laid-out outlets, realistic prices, and ensuring holding/reording sufficient stock to satisfy customer wants. In boom times such dead ducks might cling on for a bit longer, but as soon as a recession hits they will among the first to go.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

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    Margaret Thatcher
  • SteveV2
    SteveV2 Posts: 241 Forumite
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    Another 2/10 are bookies? Seems like it anyway.

    RIP highstreet.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    SteveV2 wrote: »
    RIP highstreet.

    Just another evolutionary cycle.

    Out of town is for the big boys.

    Time for smaller family oriented business to reclaim the high street.

    All those people running a business from home will be looking for suitable premises from which to advertise their services. (and no, not that kind either).
  • Yeah, yeah go on, you all keep shopping online.

    More American business influence is just what we need.

    More Amazon, more eBay.

    Tax to the treasury? No, can't do that. Yanks won't like it.

    High St., shop? Is thee still dreaming?

    Concrete ghost towns will be plentiful. This is the Britain of the future. Plenty more space for hoodies to congregate.

    Oh, but I can just shop and shop more online? You keep doing that.

    Damn, I just heard the NMW has been abolished, employers can now demand £1.50/hr.

    Why?

    China only pays that rate and they're selling the same good there?

    This is Britain right? We live wealthier, fatter, bloated lives.

    Unfortunately, everything has to come down to the lowest buyer.

    We chinese rich? We buy your houses and rent them back to you!

    How? We suffer many generations of austerity, and with our spare cash we now rich!

    Britain no longer prepared to actually make something someone wants because there's no time - we have South Park, American Dad and XF, I'm a Celebrity to watch.

    Wait. ...

    Britain is a business stronghold! We have zillions of bookies, cash for gold and advance wage shops. We do everything that ... well ... doesn't involve hard work.

    No more Britain. Sorry broken.

    Get used to the future.
  • The high street maybe suffering but that does not cover the whole of retail.

    For me there is a major difference to the demographic of people who shop in the high street and those who use shopping centers out of town or it is in my town.

    If I ever have the misfortune to go there, I see groups of easten european men slumed around benches, tracki bottomed youths swearing at their girlfriend with 2 kids in tow, a majority of people who smoke and old folk. I suspect nearly 90% of the folk use public transport and a high percentage on benefits and or min wage.

    The retail park up the road offers free parking, I don't see the above (no issues with old folk btw just trying to give you a picture of the demographic).

    I agree with the guy who proposed turning empty retail into flats this gives the towns more folk to shop and folk more places to live.
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