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  • Johnmcl7
    Johnmcl7 Posts: 2,823 Forumite
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    custardy wrote: »
    slightly larger?
    Do you wear one?

    I would have thought that obvious by my posts in this thread, I can't think of any situation where the slightly larger size of the helmet would cause an accident (nor do any of the articles on helmet use) given the bike itself is considerably larger.

    John
  • custardy
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    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    I would have thought that obvious by my posts in this thread, I can't think of any situation where the slightly larger size of the helmet would cause an accident (nor do any of the articles on helmet use) given the bike itself is considerably larger.

    John

    Well if you want an example,low hanging branches
    I have had mine clip a branch
    ergo my head wouldn't have

    I haven't tried wearing a bike on my head,So I'm sure where its size is an issue?
  • Johnmcl7
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    custardy wrote: »
    Well if you want an example,low hanging branches
    I have had mine clip a branch
    ergo my head wouldn't have

    I haven't tried wearing a bike on my head,So I'm sure where its size is an issue?

    Here's small tip, don't cycle into areas where you have no clearance, the helmet adds a fractional amount to the head particularly compared to the amount of movement available to reposition your body on the bike.

    The bike extends in all three dimensions and it's not flexible (bar small movement in the suspension) so if anything is likely to catch it's a portion of the bike.

    Quite honestly I think you're just trolling now or the concepts of cycling are clearly beyond your capabilities so I am not wasting any more time with your posts.

    John
  • custardy
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    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    Here's small tip, don't cycle into areas where you have no clearance, the helmet adds a fractional amount to the head particularly compared to the amount of movement available to reposition your body on the bike.

    The bike extends in all three dimensions and it's not flexible (bar small movement in the suspension) so if anything is likely to catch it's a portion of the bike.

    Quite honestly I think you're just trolling now or the concepts of cycling are clearly beyond your capabilities so I am not wasting any more time with your posts.

    John

    Not at all
    its you that seems to have closed your mind
    you said there were no downsides to wearing a helmet
    thats a closed statement
    you dismiss the possibility there could be
  • thelawnet
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    I was in the playground with my son today, two children rode their bikes there, helmets on, very nice, but er, they didn't fit properly and nobody told them to take them off before playing on the play equipment, which is very dangerous and is the cause of a number of deaths around the world.

    http://cyclehelmets.org/1227.html

    For most people cycle helmets are a matter of faith, not evidence, because otherwise they would be buying helmets on the basis of safety testing, ensuring they fit properly, and removing them before their child goes to play on the climbing frame.
  • Johnmcl7
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    That number of deaths according to the link is 15 over 28 years worldwide which to say it's a very small number is an understatement. I'm sure there are other causes of fatalities with a higher probability that should be actioned first. I didn't realise helmets were such a contentious issue, I see that site claims mandatory helmet law would cause 254 deaths because they would discourage some people from cycling who needed physical activity. A bit of a stretch I think it's fair to say.

    Overall though, does it even matter here? As far as I'm aware there is no legal obligation to wear one and no sign of any law being formed to make them mandatory so whether people here choose to wear one or not is neither here nor there.

    John
  • custardy
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    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    That number of deaths according to the link is 15 over 28 years worldwide which to say it's a very small number is an understatement. I'm sure there are other causes of fatalities with a higher probability that should be actioned first. I didn't realise helmets were such a contentious issue, I see that site claims mandatory helmet law would cause 254 deaths because they would discourage some people from cycling who needed physical activity. A bit of a stretch I think it's fair to say.

    Overall though, does it even matter here? As far as I'm aware there is no legal obligation to wear one and no sign of any law being formed to make them mandatory so whether people here choose to wear one or not is neither here nor there.

    John


    well it is if you believe the research into driver/peoples attitudes to those wearing/not wearing
    look at articles where cyclists have been injured/killed
    more often than not,helmets whether worn or not will be mentioned in the article
    does it really matter if a cyclist wore a helmet when they ae peeled from the treads of a truck?
    how often does an article mention whether or not a car driver wore their seatbelt in an accident for example?
  • Dave_C_2
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    Johnmcl7 wrote: »
    Overall though, does it even matter here? As far as I'm aware there is no legal obligation to wear one and no sign of any law being formed to make them mandatory so whether people here choose to wear one or not is neither here nor there.
    The simple answer is yes it does matter.
    The question of choice surely is informed choice. As various links from this thread have shown, it isn't cut and dried that helmets are the universal safety panacea that the manufacturers claim.

    Dave
  • Johnmcl7
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    But on the other hand links in this thread also show there is no realistic downside to wearing a helmet either as long as you keep on cycling. Given the number of people wearing helmets isn't that high in the first place I don't see how it's an issue that some of those may not be getting as much of a benefit as they believe.

    John
  • Tiddlywinks
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    Dave_C wrote: »
    Personally I don't wear a helmet as the majority of my cycling is on country roads and national cycle route 67. I think that the choice of helmet wearing should be left up to the individual, as long as it is an informed choice.

    A family member of mine was out with her husband and two young children for a cycle ride in the country.

    Husband in front, kids in the middle, mum at the back... she hit a small rock on the road, lost balance and fell. She had always insisted that her children wore helmets but she wasn't wearing one.

    She hit her head, never regained consciousness and died less that a week later. Her neurologist was adamant that she would have stood a good chance of surviving the impact if she had been wearing head protection.

    She wasn't just a statistic, she was a young mum, a dedicated nurse and is still very much missed by her family.

    Please make up your own mind but don't assume that country roads are safe because they have less motorists... in our case, no other vehicle or individual was involved, and, yes, she was a very experienced cyclist.
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