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Child Benefit Farce 2

I've no idea where he got the idea from, but a Treasury Minister seems to detect people "complaining" about the new Child Benefits System.

This is hard to believe, especially for posters on these boards who surely would understand the necessity for these proposals and would understand that waiting until they are implemented to compain about them would make them look rather silly.

A bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.

To prove that the Minister is talking rubbish, I thought I'd post this, and prove that nobody will get on this thread and complain about the new CB system.

Middle-class parents who complain about cuts to child benefit for higher earners have been accused of being "nimbys" by a Treasury minister.

The phrase - which stands for "not in my back yard" - is normally used to describe people who block building developments out of self interest.

Treasury Minister David Gauke said "every section of society" had to make a contribution to cutting the deficit.

Labour said it was an example of how out of touch the coalition had become.

Child benefit is tax free and currently stands at £20.30 a week for the first child and £13.40 for each child after that.

'Have to cope'

From January, families where one parent earns between £50,000 and £60,000 will have their benefit reduced on a sliding scale, and will only lose the benefit entirely when earning over £60,000.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20178274
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  • Thrugelmir
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    I've no idea where he got the idea from, but a Treasury Minister seems to detect people "complaining" about the new Child Benefits System.

    Maybe that's because some people haven't realised yet the extent of the reduction in the money they'll receive.
  • BobQ
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    A Treasury Minister who cannot even use the expression "NIMBY" in context is hardly a reliable source for monitoring the Nation's mood. What did his driver say?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • matbe
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    BobQ wrote: »
    A Treasury Minister who cannot even use the expression "NIMBY" in context is hardly a reliable source for monitoring the Nation's mood. What did his driver say?


    Do you think his driver is on 50-60k?
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    matbe wrote: »
    Do you think his driver is on 50-60k?
    No but maybe he gets a laptop to keep from public funds.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Generali
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    I thought Labour were in favour of taxing the rich more. What changed?
  • Fella
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    Generali wrote: »
    I thought Labour were in favour of taxing the rich more. What changed?

    That's not exactly their policy. In fact their entire manifesto consists of "disagree with every single thing the coalition does & hope people are stupid enough to vote for us".

    This was admirably displayed this week when they voted directly against their own beliefs purely to ensure Cameron would lose the vote on EU funding, even though they are pro-EU.
  • I'm fine with the idea of paying more tax as long as those on eve higher incomes also pay. The child benefit thing upsets hypocritical morons like TWH because people earning more than him keep he benefits he wants abolished but he loses it.
  • The Childbenefit threshold is a lot higher than most people know. The quoted salary figure of £50k to £60k is actually after tax, NI and pension. An individual would have to be earning close to £100k to lose CB. If someone is on the 'cusp' of losing it, they can just pay more into a pension or AVC.

    I think most people have a problem that the salary is based on an individual high earner and not on total household income like tax credits are.
  • The Childbenefit threshold is a lot higher than most people know. The quoted salary figure of £50k to £60k is actually after tax, NI and pension. An individual would have to be earning close to £100k to lose CB. If someone is on the 'cusp' of losing it, they can just pay more into a pension or AVC.

    I think most people have a problem that the salary is based on an individual high earner and not on total household income like tax credits are.

    It's pre tax and NI.
    I was a DFW, now I'm a MFW :T
  • The Childbenefit threshold is a lot higher than most people know. The quoted salary figure of £50k to £60k is actually after tax, NI and pension. An individual would have to be earning close to £100k to lose CB. If someone is on the 'cusp' of losing it, they can just pay more into a pension or AVC.

    I think most people have a problem that the salary is based on an individual high earner and not on total household income like tax credits are.

    Rubbish, where did you get that idea from?

    It's always been pre-tax.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
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