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Employer wants to give me a warning

Hi,

Can you help?

I have heard through a friend in work that my department manager wants to give me a warning. I have a clean record but word is I will get at least a written warning or a final warning. I need to get myself prepared for what to do next.

Facts as they stand.
1. I work for a company making precision parts for nuclear reactors, health service, nassa etc.
2. I am very clear on the need for accuracy.
3. A batch of my work has been rejected for being out of size spec.
4. For every job I do samples are taken, measured, ID'd, double checked and set aside in an holding area. Management destroy the samples after a 6 week period.
5. I was only told about the out of spec work 8 weeks after I did the work. My checked and cleared samples had already been destroyed a member of the management team.
6. I did this work over a weekend, working overtime, I was alone in my section and whilst I know I got my work double checked, because I always get everything double checked, its been so long ago that I cant remember who I asked. I have spoken to people who have checked stuff for me in the past but none of us can be 100% sure and whoever it was did not countersign my worksheet so I have no paper record.
7. When I spoke to my team leader about the situation, I explained that my samples where in spec, I'd had them checked etc; he said not to worry about it too much because the micrometers that we have aren't terribly accurate.

Personally I feel both sides are as bad as each other here and it should be left as it is. However our department manager has a point to prove with our new owners and I know he will not let this drop.

As I cant prove my innocence do I have to take the warning?

Thank you in advance for any help or knowledge you can pass on.

Comments

  • LittleVoice
    LittleVoice Posts: 8,974 Forumite
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    Hi,

    Can you help?

    I have heard through a friend in work that my department manager wants to give me a warning. I have a clean record but word is I will get at least a written warning or a final warning. I need to get myself prepared for what to do next.

    Facts as they stand.
    1. I work for a company making precision parts for nuclear reactors, health service, nassa etc.
    2. I am very clear on the need for accuracy.
    3. A batch of my work has been rejected for being out of size spec.
    4. For every job I do samples are taken, measured, ID'd, double checked and set aside in an holding area. Management destroy the samples after a 6 week period.
    5. I was only told about the out of spec work 8 weeks after I did the work. My checked and cleared samples had already been destroyed a member of the management team.
    6. I did this work over a weekend, working overtime, I was alone in my section and whilst I know I got my work double checked, because I always get everything double checked, its been so long ago that I cant remember who I asked. I have spoken to people who have checked stuff for me in the past but none of us can be 100% sure and whoever it was did not countersign my worksheet so I have no paper record.
    7. When I spoke to my team leader about the situation, I explained that my samples where in spec, I'd had them checked etc; he said not to worry about it too much because the micrometers that we have aren't terribly accurate. [!!!!!!]

    Personally I feel both sides are as bad as each other here and it should be left as it is. However our department manager has a point to prove with our new owners and I know he will not let this drop.

    As I cant prove my innocence do I have to take the warning? If what is said about the micrometers is true, and you can demonstrate that, then you could appeal.

    Thank you in advance for any help or knowledge you can pass on.

    ......................
  • You need a copy of your company's disciplinary policy. Managers should not award a written warning without holding a disciplinary meeting at which you have an opportunity to answer any accusations against you. The outcome of such meetings is NOT supposed to be decided in advance!

    My own belief (and I would be interested to hear the views of others) is that an employer is on very shaky ground if they hold a disciplinary and have already destroyed the evidence on which the disciplinary is based. It may well be that nothing comes of these rumours you have heard, but if you are, out of the blue, issued with a disciplinary warning, my reaction would be to raise a grievance stressing that the samples complained about have already been destroyed and are too old for you to be able to verify who doubled checked them.
    Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).
  • And that the micrometers are innacurate!
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • Bigmoney2
    Bigmoney2 Posts: 640 Forumite
    Speak to your Union asap. If you aren't in one join up asap.

    What is the company policy on disciplinary procedure, I would expect any disciplinary hearing to be done confidentially, not have the outcome bandied around to others before a hearing has even been held.
  • denla
    denla Posts: 417 Forumite
    Is this the part OP walks away without a warning and we later hear news about a nuclear power plant exploding because of that component? -_________-
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