Is OS *REALLY* cheaper?

Queenie

tr3mor wrote: »

Why does this always boil down to a man/woman thing.

It really annoys me. Most women I know can't cook for toffee, and virtually all well known chefs are men....

Yes, taken out of context I can see why that comment might annoy However, taken IN context

Queenie wrote:

Before you do that ... remember, he's a bloke, he'll throw up other "logistics" which he may well feel backs up *his* theory So, be prepared!!!

In other words, he will have a different point of view over the costings and may address issues that hadn't already been brought up by the predominantly female responses.

tr3mor wrote:

I think you lot should give more credit to your partners. If it wasn't for them I doubt you'd have all the time to be a SAHM, post on here and mess around in the kitchen.

:mad:

Who's "you lot"?

Can't speak for everyone on here, only myself

But, if it wasn't for *me* my childrens father wouldn't be able to work in his beloved chosen career path which involves working all kinds of anti-social hours, means 'we' (his family) take the flack from some of his 'customers' to the point where our home (our ourselves!) has been attacked

My computer was bought from *my* earnings, not his and I don't mess about in my kitchen (he did the washing up ) - I provide honest to goodness, homecooked food that I have invested time, energy, knowledge and legwork in finding the best quality, best deal to provide him and our children with the best sustinance *he* can afford by providing *his* wages.

I sew, clean, decorate, garden and provided childcare so that HIS hardearned isn't paid out to manufacturers, cleaners, decorators and gardeners or nurseries or after school/holiday schemes. I nurse all of them when they are poorly 24/7. I counsel them all through *their* woes. I chauffer them all where they need to be to THEIR schedule.

Sheeze, all the bloke does for us is trot off to a job *he* chose, *he* loves and gives me an allowance to juggle to do all these things - credit where it's due .... it's *very* unbalanced really :laugh:

No matter how hard I try, I cannot make my 4 brothers, 4 sons or husband think and feel the way I do. In my experience, men *do* tend to have a logistical way of viewing most things. In my experience, (shock horror!) men and women *are* different!! Now, if that offends you and makes you feel that it is detrimental and not given due credit to the males in my lifetime, then that is *your* issue and certainly not mine

FZwanab

Fair play to all the blokes on here who can cook well done. I wish my oh could do some more. Anyway, the point I wanted to make was look at the price of a bag of frozen chips or take away chips compared to a bag of potatoes?? It makes me sad to see poor families spending so much money on chips when potatoes cost pence.

tr3mor

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at your post specifically.

It just seems that every single thread about OS ways ends up with everyone talking about how hopeless their husbands are.

I'll go sit in the corner and be quiet.

wanting2save

tr3mor wrote: »

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at your post specifically.

It just seems that every single thread about OS ways ends up with everyone talking about how hopeless their husbands are.

I'll go sit in the corner and be quiet.

I dont think anyone wants you to be quiet? I think we all just have our personal experiences of our own OHs (mine is not tooooo bad but needs guidance, getting better though) and we seem to be the main cooks in our houses.

Obviously there are loads of great male chefs around and using OS as an example i am often in awe of MATH as he is just superman in the home, definately puts me to shame anyway!

Definately dont stay quiet though as a bit of banter does us all good and blows away the cobwebs!!

Queenie

tr3mor – As it was my words you specifically quoted, naturally, I responded to your remarks, specifically

I’m sorry you feel that every single thread in OS ways ends up with talking about how hopeless their husbands are/were/ might be. I’m sure that isn’t quite the case, but I can appreciate that a number of them do.
Please do not sit in a corner and be quiet, well, at least not alone and not without a healthy slurp of the comfort of a bowl of homemade soup

This thread was never about males vs females but fundamentally about cooking from scratch vs buying ready prepared food.

There are a number of women who post on here who are really trying to learn/expand their knowledge of cooking/budgeting/meal planning and often come up against attitudes of “why bother” when you can buy x? Or, worse, feel undermined in their endeavours.

Personally, I do find comments such as “you lot” and “if it wasn’t for them …. mess around the kitchen” not only offensive, but undermining to those who are doing their best to make their houses a home. But, I equally accept that it is *my* perception of those remarks and my perception of the insinuation behind them

There is also the double edged sword of men work/earn and the women who stay at home on their backsides! This is very much a Dickensian attitude because as I’ve already pointed out in my previous post, women at home are often working very hard, with no recognition, not only to make the home run smoothly but with very little acknowledgement or indeed, representative monetary reward! Yet both women *and* men utilise OS for what it is, a way of moneysaving on the home front. Irrespective of who cooks, or their level of cooking skills, the subject of this thread remains the same despite either and that is, is OS really moneysaving.

I would guestimate I have more than earned the equivalent to my children’s father if I were to be paid for what I accomplish. The only difference is, being a housewife/mother isn’t salaried … mainly I think because no one would be able to afford us If someone out there would like to pay me the equivalent hourly rate that child carers get and the equivalent of your local gardener not to mention the local painter and decorater, curtain maker, nurse, taxi driver, accountant, et al … believe me, my earnings would be far superior to the allowance I’m given

Yes, many top chef’s *are* men … but to be really fair, that is their *chosen* career, they are paid for it, or they do so as a hobby. The majority of women who are expected (I did say expected, not who *do*) won’t be paid for it and will be expected to do so for the whole of their lives and will be given no retirement date or pension for it!!

I stand by my comments of earlier … no sexism intended, just mere fact based on my experience; if someone is going to sell the idea that making food from scratch is cheaper than a ready meal, a bloke will already have considered and assessed the added costs of fuel plus time and motion and not just the cost of ingredients. Blokes do tend to think that way far more than women do. Not a slight or dig or moan about men per se, just my own experience!

nearlyrich

Just to put my two pennorth in I am a woman I work fulltime my DH is now retired and is home all day, he is now a prety good cook and can even find the hoover when he needs it. LOL...

taplady

tr3mor wrote: »

Sorry, I wasn't having a go at your post specifically.

It just seems that every single thread about OS ways ends up with everyone talking about how hopeless their husbands are.

I'll go sit in the corner and be quiet.

I'm sure we dont all think our OH's are useless, mine certainly isn't but we are both good at different things, he cant cook but neither am I any good at DIY or growing veggies. We both appreciate each others talents that help the home to run smoothly and he just loves eating HM food versus processed food , I am lucky that he recognises that OS is good for us all and I feel sorry for those struggling to convert an unsympathetic OH!

daysieblue

tr3mor wrote: »

Why does this always boil down to a man/woman thing.

It really annoys me. Most women I know can't cook for toffee, and virtually all well known chefs are men.

I think you lot should give more credit to your partners. If it wasn't for them I doubt you'd have all the time to be a SAHM, post on here and mess around in the kitchen.

:mad:

Sorry, rant over!

I think my tupence on this would be that I'm not a SAHM, I work full time in order to provide things for my family, as does my DH. This is part of the original argument I suppose really. As well as the actual fiscal cost, he's concerned that being OS costs too much of my time, which as you can appreciate is very limited with FT work, two kiddies under 10 and the house. I give him a lot of credit as a helpful caring partner, in fact he does a lot more of the housework than I do! This (and some other matters financial) is really the only time we don't really see eye to eye.

But, I've spoken to him about this thread (and many others actually, think he might be getting a bit MSE peeved!) and we are making Curry Queen's korma for dinner tomorrow! yay

db xx

thriftlady_2

I am a SAHM and tbh I feel really lucky and privileged to be able to do what I love. It's thanks to my husband that I can do this and I'm really grateful to him for not interfering in my kitchen. No, he can't cook, but that's because he hasn't had to learn, what he can do is earn a good salary to enable me to stay home. He also helps a lot with the kids especially dd who is being a major pain as I type. He's the best

happyathome_withmyboys

Wow - I too am a SAHM and proud of it. My husband earns a pittance - but works bl**dy hard for it and we made a joint decision when we had children that this was how we would live. I am proud of my husband and how hard he works (from now until November, 7 days a week and 10-14 hours a day) but by the same token he is equally proud of me - I provide a haven for him to come home to, I am raising two little boys with strong values, I manage our finances to stretch as best they can and I do an enormous amount to support my local community. This site is SO much more than an excuse to faff about - it is a mine of information, an extended community which is very hard to find with almost everyone else working and sending their children to nurseries, and I for one make no excuses for spending the little free time i do have chatting to like-minded people here.
There - that is my rant over with... I think I feel better....