RATS in the workplace!

Brightness

Not necessarily. Environmental Health have a duty of care to randomly inspect any area that stores or produces food that is to be sold for consumption. Rodent checks should be commonplace. I know that rodents can be a problem but the bait that the pest control company is using might not be strong enough or of the wrong type. It could even be that the rat problem is worse than they think and the rats are eating all the bait and dying. If but there's not enough bait being laid then not all the rats will be getting a tummy full!

As far as I am aware, you don't have to give your details to EH & even if you do, they are legally bound not to pass them on to your company. Good luck and let us know how you get on

Mischa8

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

As long as its contained then no problem. As mentioned before however careful you can be you will not eradicate the problem.

You do realise that your local tescos/Asda etc most likely have mouse and rat problems....you not going to eat anything from there then?

don't be daft. I would hope my local supermarket would deal with rodent problems and not endanger customers' health. IF I ever saw a rodent at their stores, of course I'd shop them to Environmental Health.

it's more about mice/rats being in already packaged goods or near them (ie BEFORE they go out to supermarket) is what bothers me. Someone posted here recently a dead mouse found in a loaf of bread (dead) and a live mouse/rat IN a bag with bread (in Australia) - I would kick up a real stink about both of these because

a) down to supplier and
b) down to supermarket for not checking what goes onto their shop floor.

call me fussy if you will but bad PR for the supermarkets/suppliers I find seems to do the trick... :eek:

Mischa8

Brightness wrote: »

Not necessarily. Environmental Health have a duty of care to randomly inspect any area that stores or produces food that is to be sold for consumption. Rodent checks should be commonplace. I know that rodents can be a problem but the bait that the pest control company is using might not be strong enough or of the wrong type. It could even be that the rat problem is worse than they think and the rats are eating all the bait and dying. If but there's not enough bait being laid then not all the rats will be getting a tummy full!

As far as I am aware, you don't have to give your details to EH & even if you do, they are legally bound not to pass them on to your company. Good luck and let us know how you get on

I second Brightness' comments.

and good luck!

Takeaway_Addict

Mischa8 wrote: »

don't be daft. I would hope my local supermarket would deal with rodent problems and not endanger customers' health. IF I ever saw a rodent at their stores, of course I'd shop them to Environmental Health.

it's more about mice/rats being in already packaged goods or near them (ie BEFORE they go out to supermarket) is what bothers me. Someone posted here recently a dead mouse found in a loaf of bread (dead) and a live mouse/rat IN a bag with bread (in Australia) - I would kick up a real stink about both of these because

a) down to supplier and
b) down to supermarket for not checking what goes onto their shop floor.

call me fussy if you will but bad PR for the supermarkets/suppliers I find seems to do the trick... :eek:

You are naive if you don't think that from time to time supermarkets won't have pest problems...

As good as a company can be these things do always crop up and as long as they throw anything anyway that has been contaminated and taken proper precautions then there is no problem

Mischa8

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

You are naive if you don't think that from time to time supermarkets won't have pest problems...

LOL - namecalling now is it? Of course I realise supermarkets have problems but they get H&S,Enviro Health inspections and proper precautions.

As good as a company can be these things do always crop up and as long as they throw anything anyway that has been contaminated and taken proper precautions then there is no problem

It is you who has replied to OP and tried to make light of the problems (despite OP later stating and other's positive replies).

Just shows what some people are prepared to put up with and others aren't.

AGAIN - see my other posts - do you REALLY want to eat a loaf of bread with a dead mouse in, I think not! :rotfl:

skivenov

Mischa8 wrote: »

don't be daft. I would hope my local supermarket would deal with rodent problems and not endanger customers' health. IF I ever saw a rodent at their stores, of course I'd shop them to Environmental Health.

Trust me, I might be daft, but I used to work on supermarket refits for a living.

Supermarkets have rodent problems. There's bits of a shop where you always get furry friends, the problem is when they start to progress past this into clean storage areas and retail areas. When that happens, it's pretty much overnight.

I've seen some corkers that you'd never believe, and sorting them out takes time to do.

Takeaway_Addict

Mischa8 wrote: »

It is you who has replied to OP and tried to make light of the problems (despite OP later stating and other's positive replies).

Just shows what some people are prepared to put up with and others aren't.

AGAIN - see my other posts - do you REALLY want to eat a loaf of bread with a dead mouse in, I think not! :rotfl:

Not name calling, just astounded by your naivety.

Most good companies do the precautions (as per the sounds of the OP's) so again, whats the difference between eating stock from a supermarket which has a good chance to have a pest problem to the OP's chocolate manufacturer?

Mischa8

skivenov wrote: »

Trust me, I might be daft, but I used to work on supermarket refits for a living.

I'm not sure where I called YOU daft but whatever.

Supermarkets have rodent problems. There's bits of a shop where you always get furry friends, the problem is when they start to progress past this into clean storage areas and retail areas. When that happens, it's pretty much overnight.

Yes I appreciate supermarkets have rodent problems,its when they contaminate the goods you provide for sale is where I'd have the problem.

Mischa8

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Not name calling, just astounded by your naivety.

It's not my fault that you're a disgusting person who wants to work with/have rodents' contaminating food etc.

Most good companies do the precautions (as per the sounds of the OP's) so again, whats the difference between eating stock from a supermarket which has a good chance to have a pest problem to the OP's chocolate manufacturer?

Like I said before but you must be seriously THICK - a supermarket but more importantly a manufacturer be it of chocolate or whatever must have quality controls before their chocolate is supplied to general public. and like I said before - do you really want to see a live/dead or whatever mouse, cockroach etc in your supermarket food?

no you don't. end of

Takeaway_Addict

Mischa8 wrote: »

Like I said before but you must be seriously THICK - a supermarket but more importantly a manufacturer be it of chocolate or whatever must have quality controls before their chocolate is supplied to general public. and like I said before - do you really want to see a live/dead or whatever mouse, cockroach etc in your supermarket food?

no you don't. end of

Lol now whose name calling....

And saying 'End of' doesn't mean you're right or that it ends the discussion.

However, you don't seem to be grasping that what I am saying is that the OP's place has controls in place just like a supermarket and as such their products are no less likely to be contaminated than a supermarket. I seriously doubt they allow food that has been contaminated to go out for general sale.

Also, if supermarkets have all these controls that you believe they have over manufacturers.....how did they not spot that mouse in the bread?

If you want to b1tch at me go ahead as this has now run its course and I won't reply to your pettyness.